[Severian]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

When Boondock Saints came out everyone I knew was sucking it's limp dick, and I fucking found that shit so BORING. That movie sucks so fucking much.

Oh my god it's so bad. It's so poorly done and kitschy and deliberately culty but in all the wrong ways. I was expecting to see Pulp Fiction as directed by Sam Raimi and instead it was just shit directed by an arsehole.

Embarrassingly bad. And actually quite offensive. That "lesbian" scene makes me sick. Says a lot about the director that he wanted us to sympathize with the main characters. He's probably never been laid in his life and is projecting his insecurities all over the world like so much jizz backed up over a wasted lifetime.

I used to hear people talk about Boondocks Saints in the context of Pulp Fiction, Fight Club, and even Fargo... between bong hits that is, and while peering though dreadlocks in dorm rooms.... but those people were idiots and the movie is shit times a billion. The shittiest shit ever shat.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

under the skin was a creepy cool flick

Fun fact.. Under the Skin was directed by the dude who directed Radiohead's "Karma Police" video. Jonathan Glazer. Yup yup!

I think that either he (Glazer) or Dennis Villeneuve, would both be well-suited to direct a Batman film that, y'know, isn't shit. Like, if that ever becomes something D.C./Warner Bros. is interested in making again. After the Batfleck goes the way of the rubber-nippled Bat-Clooney.

Baha!

[!@#$%!]

just finished watching STARLET

slow moody indie film featuring ernest hemingway's granddauther dree (daughter of mariel) who plays a san fernando valley pornetta who meets a very old lady (without enormous wings) at a yard sale and then...

ha ha that isn't much of a premise, i know, but it turned out to be a nice flick in a "white people indie" kind of way. nice photography/palette, a bit of nothing happens, dree hemingway is easy on the eye, the porn is disturbing but does fit the story.

tldr; i liked it okay

[demonrail666]

 

Red Dawn

In which Patrick Swayze, Emilio Estevez and some other high schoolers take on and (obviously) defeat a Soviet invasion of Colorado. It's sort of like a South Park episode but played totally straight. I have a bit of a soft spot for self proclaimed 'zen fascist' John Milius. As absurd as his films invariably are they're utterly unique. I'm curious to see the recent remake but I doubt that it'll be anywhere near as out-there as the original.

 

[Severian]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

 

Red Dawn

In which Patrick Swayze, Emilio Estevez and some other high schoolers take on and (obviously) defeat a Soviet invasion of Colorado. It's sort of like a South Park episode but played totally straight. I have a bit of a soft spot for self proclaimed 'zen fascist' John Milius. As absurd as his films invariably are they're utterly unique. I'm curious to see the recent remake but I doubt that it'll be anywhere near as out-there as the original.

 

It's been eons since I've seen the original, but the remake is utterly generic and, for some fucking reason, very self-serious. You'd think this movie would best work as a sort of knowingly comedic thing like ... I don't know, the Addams Family or Brady Bunch movies. But no... it's super dramatic and predictably "high-octane" bullshit.

I didn't even finish it.

It's weird to me that you feel like you have to explain the plot of Red Dawn. I was under the impression that this was a cult classic for the snarks among us, and the stuff of biblical legend for rural survivalists and militia members.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Severian

It's been eons since I've seen the original, but the remake is utterly generic and, for some fucking reason, very self-serious. You'd think this movie would best work as a sort of knowingly comedic thing like ... I don't know, the Addams Family or Brady Bunch movies. But no... it's super dramatic and predictably "high-octane" bullshit.

I didn't even finish it.

It's weird to me that you feel like you have to explain the plot of Red Dawn. I was under the impression that this was a cult classic for the snarks among us, and the stuff of biblical legend for rural survivalists and militia members.

it's from the 80s, at the height of the red/nuclear scare-- war games, the day after, etc. militaristic shit shifted from ww2 stuff to the then-present like top gun. rah rah america

people really were afraid they'd die in a mushroom cloud or from radiation poisoning. not like in the 60s when they'd tell you to hide under a desk, but this time you knew you'd be obliterated by ICBMs. no need for cuba.

there was also the neutron bomb (see: repo man), and ronnie raygun wanted star wars. the soviets were in afghanistan. a kgb man became soviet prime minister.

the soviet union was crumbling from within, but they didn't want you to know that-- they wanted you to be scared of the "evil empire" instead.

9/11 type "terrorism" doesn't hold a candle to the existential dread of the 80s

and gorbachev came as a huuuuuuuuuge relief

incidentally, i'm watching season 5 of "the americans" on tv which illustrates much of this

[h8kurdt]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

 

Red Dawn

In which Patrick Swayze, Emilio Estevez and some other high schoolers take on and (obviously) defeat a Soviet invasion of Colorado. It's sort of like a South Park episode but played totally straight. I have a bit of a soft spot for self proclaimed 'zen fascist' John Milius. As absurd as his films invariably are they're utterly unique. I'm curious to see the recent remake but I doubt that it'll be anywhere near as out-there as the original.

 

Arnold Schwarzenegger talks about John Milius in his autobiography a bit. Then guy was clearly mental in one way or another.

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by Severian

It's weird to me that you feel like you have to explain the plot of Red Dawn. I was under the impression that this was a cult classic for the snarks among us, and the stuff of biblical legend for rural survivalists and militia members.

Yeah, I suppose it has less of a cult following, or any following at all, really, in Britain. Even those here in sympathy with its politics would inevitably look for a British equivalent, although even then I can't think of anything that would really fit the bill. Maybe a vigilante film like Harry Brown but it's not quite the same thing.

[ilduclo]

Green Room, pretty good, too bad about Anton, what a loss, fucking Chrysler products anyways. Macon Blair very good in it, Captain Picard is a NASTI NAZI and Amber is bad-ass in it. Recco's

 

[Severian]

Originally Posted by ilduclo

Green Room, pretty good, too bad about Anton, what a loss, fucking Chrysler products anyways. Macon Blair very good in it, Captain Picard is a NASTI NAZI and Amber is bad-ass in it. Recco's

 

I really liked this one up until the end, at which point I was kind of like, "Uh. Ok."

Patrick Stewart is sooo much cooler than the X-Men films would have you believe. He's a damn good actor with splendid range. Ever see his likeness/voice acting on American Dad? Dude is genuinely fucking funny, with great timing.

Yes I like American Dad. Family Guy I tolerate because it makes me laugh sometimes despite its soullessness, but American Dad is dope.

Good movie, Green Room. Nice and refreshing for the horror genre.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

it's from the 80s, at the height of the red/nuclear scare-- war games, the day after, etc. militaristic shit shifted from ww2 stuff to the then-present like top gun. rah rah america

people really were afraid they'd die in a mushroom cloud or from radiation poisoning. not like in the 60s when they'd tell you to hide under a desk, but this time you knew you'd be obliterated by ICBMs. no need for cuba.

there was also the neutron bomb (see: repo man), and ronnie raygun wanted star wars. the soviets were in afghanistan. a kgb man became soviet prime minister.

the soviet union was crumbling from within, but they didn't want you to know that-- they wanted you to be scared of the "evil empire" instead.

9/11 type "terrorism" doesn't hold a candle to the existential dread of the 80s

and gorbachev came as a huuuuuuuuuge relief

incidentally, i'm watching season 5 of "the americans" on tv which illustrates much of this

I remember a bit of this, though I was pretty young. But I do recall "red scare" topical plot lines taking over a lot of cinema. Like Rocky IV or Superman IV -- not rife with Cold War analogies. Not very subtle in Rocky's case... more like a blunt force blow to the head.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

Yeah, I suppose it has less of a cult following, or any following at all, really, in Britain. Even those here in sympathy with its politics would inevitably look for a British equivalent, although even then I can't think of anything that would really fit the bill. Maybe a vigilante film like Harry Brown but it's not quite the same thing.

ha! i just watched harry brown the other day

dirty harry half a century later and in another continent

i liked it though, for an action film

WAIT

red dawn is a walter sobchak film??

holy shit!!

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

ha! i just watched harry brown the other day

dirty harry half a century later and in another continent

i liked it though, for an action film

That film really depressed me. I wasn't around San Francisco in the 70s but Dirty Harry seemed far more removed from reality than some of the scenes in Harry Brown.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Severian

I remember a bit of this, though I was pretty young. But I do recall "red scare" topical plot lines taking over a lot of cinema. Like Rocky IV or Superman IV -- not rife with Cold War analogies. Not very subtle in Rocky's case... more like a blunt force blow to the head.

the thing with ronnie raygun's policy was that he heated up the cold war

like, the russians were faithfully following the arms reduction treaties

but ronnie ratcheded up the rhetoric + armament production

and the country & the media followed and/or responded with demonizations

(not that the soviets were saints, but... )

turns out after the cold war ended it came out that we had gotten so good at spying on them it was easy to predict their demise

but politicians work through fear. especially the right wing ones.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

That film really depressed me. I wasn't around San Francisco in the 70s but Dirty Harry seemed far more removed from reality than some of the scenes in Harry Brown.

Fuck, with Michael Caine? Damn, I really want to watch that, but not if it's depressing.

[noisereductions]

Sev I don't remember did you see Logan yet?

Anyway didn't know the Under The Skin Karma Police connection, but it adds up.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Severian

Fuck, with Michael Caine? Damn, I really want to watch that, but not if it's depressing.

it's probably depressing for an english who sees such neighborhoods. at least that's what i understood from demonyo's wording.

a bit like clockwork orange but updated (that kind of neighborhood)

it's a sad movie though but it has also its satisfactions plus that pretty girl who looks a bit like a puppet what's her name emily mortimer who was in the newsroom with the same accent

it's watchable. it's not a masterpiece. it's an action movie mostly-- geezer action movie not like the disposables or what is their name. more serious. but also eh fantastic. dirty harry at 85.

[demonrail666]

The best description I can think of is Death Wish meets Nil By Mouth

Anyway, far less depressing, I just rewatched:

 

Fast and Furious: Tokyo Drift

I love the 1st few films in this franchise, when it was basically just about racing. This isn't my favourite of those ones but it has Han, easily the coolest character in the series.

 

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[Severian]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

 

Fast and Furious: Tokyo Drift

I love the 1st few films in this franchise, when it was basically just about racing. This isn't my favourite of those ones but it has Han, easily the coolest character in the series.

 

I cannot believe this is still a thing. It boggles my mind. They just released film number FUCKING EIGHT. And apparently films NINE AND TEN are already a go.

What (as the kids say) the actual fuck.

[ilduclo]

Hell or High Water. West Texas bank robberies. Not bad, but Jeff Bridges, damn he was awful in it.