for the americans - Page 11

!@#$%! · 11.11.2009, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

you know what is the most successful insurance program out there? It pays off doctors more than any other, it covers more people than any other, it covers more procedures than any other?

MEDICARE and MEDICAID. It is what is used by all our senators and representatives and they LOVE IT. Most private health insurance pays off to doctors about 50% of what they should. medicare and medicaid pay off around 80%. It covers things such as prosthesis for dsifigured peoplr, alternative therapies, etc.

FUCK private health insurance. it is a crock of SHIT

HELL YES. not sure all the facts are accurate but medicare spends only like 2% on administrative costs. i do know some doctors won't take medicare though cuz the payscales may be low. but that can be fixed.

i'd take medicare over private insurance. but i'll take regulated private insurance over nothing. mang, i'm self employed! the perfect is the enemy of the good. adn the good is the enemy of the good enough, ha ha.

floatingslowly · 11.11.2009, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

you know what is the most successful insurance program out there? It pays off doctors more than any other, it covers more people than any other, it covers more procedures than any other?

MEDICARE and MEDICAID.

I'm sorry, but you have no idea what yr talking about.

everyone's an expert these days.

Satan · 11.11.2009, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

to add one dependent on my work insurance (atena) it costs me $745 a month. a FUCKING MONTH!
it is insane. $745 x 12 = $8940
that is more than the yearly amount you would pay for standard doctors visits, and preventive care! fuck!

see. SEE?

do you know how much i currently spend on medical crap a year? $0. i intend to keep it that way.

ps

EVOLghost · 11.11.2009, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by notyourfiend

Yeah, I really don't think it's a big problem. Taxes are already taken out of my earnings to pay for ridiculous shit like the military that think is totally fucked up and don't support. Health care is a human right. People will get over it eventually.

w00t thanks. Now I don't need to read the next 6 pages/

Genteel Death · 11.11.2009, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by EVOLghost

w00t thanks. Now I don't need to read the next 6 pages/

Consider the fact that it's a thread for Americans, please.

EVOLghost · 11.11.2009, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Genteel Death

Consider the fact that it's a thread for Americans, please.

Bowie fears me alright.

Rob Instigator · 11.11.2009, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by floatingslowly

I'm sorry, but you have no idea what yr talking about.

everyone's an expert these days.

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read up on it. my mom worked at a cardiologist for 17 years, my cousin is an RN working in private practice. I know hospital admins and clinic admins, and while medicare is not perfect, it does pay out more often and more regularly than private health insurance. it covers more stuff than private health insurance. all elected officials get medical care under medicare if they choose, or if they are rich fucks they just choose to pay for it themselves.

look it up

floatingslowly · 11.11.2009, 12:13 PM

good sir, I have 14 years experience, currently manage approx 6 mil in billed clinical procedures yearly and quite frankly, I'm a medical billing expert.

yr data is skewed.

girlgun · 11.11.2009, 12:21 PM

Haha. Rob really? The dude knows his shit. In fact he's so good and knows so much, people fly him places to teach their people. Medicaid is so bad that no one contracts with them. Shittons of paper work and they don't pay. RNs don't know shit about billing. At all. They are nurses.

Rob Instigator · 11.11.2009, 12:21 PM

tell it to the good folks of the new york times.

Rob Instigator · 11.11.2009, 12:23 PM

"contracting" with insurance companies is part of the scam.

davenotdead · 11.11.2009, 12:26 PM

lol, ny times

girlgun · 11.11.2009, 12:26 PM

I hear a lot of bullshit a lit of places. If ny times stated that, their journalists don't have a very good understanding. Sadly most people do not.

Satan · 11.11.2009, 12:26 PM

oh my god....

CONSPIRACY TIME

perspective =/= understanding

Tokolosh · 11.11.2009, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

i'd take medicare over private insurance. but i'll take regulated private insurance over nothing.

That depends on who the regulators are...
I'm all for healthcare, but god forbid it getting privatized.
Your posts are always a win, btw.

Ps: Some of you guys should die already. You know who you are.

EVOLghost · 11.11.2009, 12:30 PM

!!!!!! Aliens Are Really The Government Controlling The Insurance Companies And Then They Want To Really Make Us Get All These Surgeries To Take Out Our Appendices And Create A Shrine And And And And And And And And And And And And And And

EVOLghost · 11.11.2009, 12:30 PM

OH MAN I got caps' lock pwned.

notyourfiend · 11.11.2009, 12:35 PM

13 pages? really? REALLY?

you do realize that satan was probably just bored/high & wanted to start some trouble.

floatingslowly · 11.11.2009, 12:43 PM

does saying "people should die" automatically disclude one's comments over healthcare?

I think it should.

that said, I long for the day when I can waltz across yr weed-covered graves.

Tokolosh · 11.11.2009, 12:45 PM

Pun intended.

11.11.2009, 12:13 PM	#208
floatingslowly invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 21,165	good sir, I have 14 years experience, currently manage approx 6 mil in billed clinical procedures yearly and quite frankly, I'm a medical billing expert. yr data is skewed.
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11.11.2009, 12:21 PM	#209
girlgun invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,906	Haha. Rob really? The dude knows his shit. In fact he's so good and knows so much, people fly him places to teach their people. Medicaid is so bad that no one contracts with them. Shittons of paper work and they don't pay. RNs don't know shit about billing. At all. They are nurses.
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11.11.2009, 12:21 PM	#210
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,932	tell it to the good folks of the new york times. __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,932	"contracting" with insurance companies is part of the scam. __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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girlgun invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,906	I hear a lot of bullshit a lit of places. If ny times stated that, their journalists don't have a very good understanding. Sadly most people do not.
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Satan invito al cielo Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: noo yawk Posts: 6,331	oh my god.... CONSPIRACY TIME perspective =/= understanding
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EVOLghost invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: cybatraz! Posts: 11,537	!!!!!! Aliens Are Really The Government Controlling The Insurance Companies And Then They Want To Really Make Us Get All These Surgeries To Take Out Our Appendices And Create A Shrine And And And And And And And And And And And And And And
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EVOLghost invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: cybatraz! Posts: 11,537	OH MAN I got caps' lock pwned.
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11.11.2009, 12:35 PM	#218
notyourfiend expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: baltimore, murderland by way of new york city Posts: 1,454	13 pages? really? REALLY? you do realize that satan was probably just bored/high & wanted to start some trouble. __________________
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11.11.2009, 12:43 PM	#219
floatingslowly invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 21,165	does saying "people should die" automatically disclude one's comments over healthcare? I think it should. that said, I long for the day when I can waltz across yr weed-covered graves.
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11.11.2009, 12:45 PM	#220
Tokolosh invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Plaza de Toros Posts: 6,731	Pun intended. __________________ Anything you can /imagine is real
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