[Diesel]

Originally Posted by selkcip

it's a fucking goldmine, and it's massive, varied.. approx. four hours worth of new material. there's bound to be something on at least 1/5 of the eps that strikes yer fancy

Four hours...four hours of step filter plugins! It's actually on the agenda tomorrow and i'm not looking forward to this one bit. I mean they've been peddling this electronic realm of classical music art wank for awhile now and it's contrived. On the plus side..at least it's not Arca. Clinging to the actual fact that it's not Arca plus a shitload of caffeine dosage should keep a somewhat rosey outlook possible in an otherwise horrendous kill-me-now situation.

In other used-to-be good fucking ages ago electronic artist news: Dj Shadow's latest album has him still burrowing down that narrow all-american lane in his perfection to bring us the greatest and most epic wrestling entrance theme ever. Apparently the numerous condescending crescendos found here are used to G' up isis during training routines at their camps.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by Diesel

Four hours...four hours of step filter plugins! It's actually on the agenda tomorrow and i'm not looking forward to this one bit. I mean they've been peddling this electronic realm of classical music art wank for awhile now and it's contrived. On the plus side..at least it's not Arca. Clinging to the actual fact that it's not Arca plus a shitload of caffeine dosage should keep a somewhat rosey outlook possible in an otherwise horrendous kill-me-now situation.

Wow man, you are HARD on Autechre! Jesus! Why even bother sitting through 4+ hours of music you don't like? I can pretty well guarantee that if you thought Exai and AE_LIVE were "art wank," then you'll probably wish Elseq1-5 was an actual living thing, just so you could torture and eventually hang it up in the shed and field dress it like a dead fucking deer.

And why exactly are you so down on Arca?

In other used-to-be good fucking ages ago electronic artist news: Dj Shadow's latest album has him still burrowing down that narrow all-american lane in his perfection to bring us the greatest and most epic wrestling entrance theme ever. Apparently the numerous condescending crescendos found here are used to G' up isis during training routines at their camps.

Hah!
Ok, I'm with you here. The new DJ Shadow is pretty disappointing. I admire your ire. I don't personally have the energy to put this much thought into loathing music anymore.

[selkcip]

Originally Posted by Diesel

Four hours...four hours of step filter plugins! It's actually on the agenda tomorrow and i'm not looking forward to this one bit. I mean they've been peddling this electronic realm of classical music art wank for awhile now and it's contrived.

hah, yes, it's contrived. it sounds as if they put some actual effort into the compositions.. it's an improvement on Exai (doesn't resemble it much, aside from a few tracks), and it reaches back through Confield and EP7, recalling sounds and ideas that characterised those albums. it sounds simultaneously less formal (more fun) and more advanced than Exai, somehow. your wariness/crustiness is amusing, even endearing, and it does come of as feeling a bit contrived. curious to hear your impressions of the elseqs.

[selkcip]

Originally Posted by Severian

EPs? Pretty long to be EPs. Feels more like 5 brand new full length albums to me. Or one REALLY FUCKING LONG album. Either way, yes... It's a goldmine for sure.

yeah, it feels like one big album. especially with several tracks lasting upwards of 20 minutes+

all of the mp3s fit onto one cdr, so that's basically how i'm tackling it, as one massive sprawl.

[selkcip]

http://www.anothertimbre.com/linda_cs_dirtroad.html

been digging this.. the music is fairly spare, though it's lush and affecting. unhurried and pretty, a good relief from the more active musics

lot of high quality stuff on the Another Timbre label, with the recent Jurg Frey discs and the regular use of John Tilbury and Apartment House on their releases. the Joseph Kudirka album Beauty and Industry (vaguely Feldman-like) is a highlight as well as Fraufraulein's Extinguishment album from last year.. real elegant and richly-textured sound art

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by guest

how is it possible for you guys to listen to both o'rourke and fennesz yet not understand that black humour is central to both their work Jesus fucking Christ

Let's go back to the damn Chicago song after which they titled the album:

You're just the part of me I can't let go.

Couldn't stand to be kept away just for the day from your body.
Wouldn't wanna be swept away, far away from the one that I love.
Hold me now. It's hard for me to say I'm sorry. I just want you to know.
Hold me now. I really want to tell you I'm sorry. I could never let you go.

Makes sense if you believe the dog in the cover won't let go, even with that second hand apparently pulling its ear. But, detective Benson, as John Waters said (and he knows a thing or two about it), there's good bad taste and then there's bad bad taste, and I think whoever chose that picture fell into the latter category by being too clever (or, well, "black-humored") by half.

[themawt71]

looking forward to the blonde redhead reissue of the first two records with bonus stuff.


the first four records def had sy in em but they were never a sy ripoff band like, i think, a lot of folks thought.

the drums, the harmony/chords and the singing always set them apart.

[Diesel]

What have I got against Arca well he's gay and American so...Venezuelan (close enough) ...wait woah I think Tesla just hacked my account or summit?! yak yak. Actually I could just say Kanye West thinks he's good so. E' nuff saaaaiiiiiiiid !!

What have I got against Arca? well, he's basically really shit, like propa shit, he's so shit he makes my shit look fake....I came up with this one myself. I'm here all week...

Had a hectic work day today so I've not had the time for a 4 hour step filter session so Cheetah it is. 3 in and It's already better than super Deejay selek but what does that say ...yea..

yea

[Severian]

Originally Posted by themawt71

looking forward to the blonde redhead reissue of the first two records with bonus stuff.


the first four records def had sy in em but they were never a sy ripoff band like, i think, a lot of folks thought.

the drums, the harmony/chords and the singing always set them apart.

I agree. Their earlier albums definitely had a stronger similarity to SY than the later ones, but at no point in their career have they been SY ripoffs. Influenced by Sonic Youth, abso-fucking-lutely. But really I think a lot of the ripoff accusations come from folks with pretty simple minds who see an art-punk/indie kind of band with a dominant female presence and their brains resort to making easy, surface level comparisons to familiar tropes.

Blond Redhead kinda got the cultural shaft in a lot of ways because they couldn't shake the "new Sonic Youth" label, and by the time they started making records that bore virtually no similarity whatsoever to anything in SY's catalog, they were basically has-beens. Notice how little coverage or love they get these days? I think the same thing happened to Deerhoof somewhere around 2010.

Deerhoof just dropped a new album by the way.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by Diesel

What have I got against Arca well he's gay and American so...Venezuelan (close enough) ...wait woah I think Tesla just hacked my account or summit?! yak yak. Actually I could just say Kanye West thinks he's good so. E' nuff saaaaiiiiiiiid !!

What have I got against Arca? well, he's basically really shit, like propa shit, he's so shit he makes my shit look fake....I came up with this one myself. I'm here all week...

Had a hectic work day today so I've not had the time for a 4 hour step filter session so Cheetah it is. 3 in and It's already better than super Deejay selek but what does that say ...yea..

yea

Did you and pepper_green trade hippocampi? What's with the nonsense u be spittin?

Arca's biggest offense is that Arca often sounds a whole lot Aphex Twin at its most immediate and poppy. Like, a fucking lot. And yet, praise is just heaped upon Arca by music journalists who are too young or too stupid not to realize that there's nothing new going on in those records.

But that's the case for a lot of "IDM" artists, and as far as RDJ stop-gaps go, I've heard worse.

You're right that Kanye things he's good. But that's not evidence that he isn't. For a dude who doesn't play any instruments (except for some synth and keys work that few people know about) he's an excellent composer, and a visionary producer. Even his detractors understand this. You can hate him all you want, but suggesting that he's not talented is frankly dumb as hell.

You're not dumb as hell are you, Diesel?

[Diesel]

Ok the best description I can give Cheetah is... it is wank, no, must inject some thought into the hate: it's not like I'm describing fucking Arca or summat!

It's sounds like early 90's- pre caustic window LP twin but produced using modern techniques. Bad 'era for dicky. Swiftly moving on, there's better stuff doing the rounds on youtube of his soundcloud dumps.

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by Severian

You're right that Kanye things he's good. But that's not evidence that he isn't.

Yes it is. Thems the rules.

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by Severian

You're right that Kanye things he's good. But that's not evidence that he isn't. For a dude who doesn't play any instruments (except for some synth and keys work that few people know about) he's an excellent composer, and a visionary producer. Even his detractors understand this. You can hate him all you want, but suggesting that he's not talented is frankly dumb as hell.

You're not dumb as hell are you, Diesel?

Oh my beloved great music artist can traverse the moonlit rooftops in silhouette majesty whilst simultaneously busting out 15 bars of pure rap gold in pristine liquid grammar all the while plucking hairs out his girlfriends arse. Even people who think he's a prick think he's just fabulous darling. Now you either agree with me or you're a dumb prick. Now tell me, are you a dumb prick? eh are you? tell me you're a dumb prick dagnabbit ! tell me so I can wank myself silly you fucking priiiiick!!

[Severian]

Originally Posted by Diesel

Oh my beloved great music artist can traverse the moonlit rooftops in silhouette majesty whilst simultaneously busting out 15 bars of pure rap gold in pristine liquid grammar all the while plucking hairs out his girlfriends arse. Even people who think he's a prick think he's just fabulous darling. Now you either agree with me or you're a dumb prick. Now tell me, are you a dumb prick? eh are you? tell me you're a dumb prick dagnabbit ! tell me so I can wank myself silly you fucking priiiiick!!

That's not at all what I meant. And you probably know that. But ^ this shit was funny as hell, so whatever.

[selkcip]

http://www.dragcity.com/products/prismrose

listening now.. pretty nice playing throughout. Grubbs' typical melodic style with subtle flourishes, sort of a long-form piece running throughout the album. vocals only appear once or twice and the drumming is rapid-fire, free jazz-style with a sensitive touch. pleasant stuff

[pepper_green]

im just chillin.

I have know ideal about new artist or sounds, im stuck. huh?


I've already gave my opinion that I think everything sucks and im fucking yr mommy. with her sweet asshole and daydream porn head that she gives me. the licking/sucking on my ball sac is amazing.

[guest]

haven't listened to much other than elseq lately, real melter that. each set would more than suffice as a record on its own yet they've got enough a-grade material to lump it into one hulking mass, glorious. their synthesis is so advanced at this point too, on the final set in particular where they toy with the residual tones of an element while honing everything else simultaneously, which given the process they're utilising at the moment goes to show -- saying it again -- how greatly they're blitzing everyone else. why would you listen to new afx when there's fucking æ is all I can muster.....

[Severian]

Originally Posted by guest

haven't listened to much other than elseq lately, real melter that. each set would more than suffice as a record on its own yet they've got enough a-grade material to lump it into one hulking mass, glorious. their synthesis is so advanced at this point too, on the final set in particular where they toy with the residual tones of an element while honing everything else simultaneously, which given the process they're utilising at the moment goes to show -- saying it again -- how greatly they're blitzing everyone else. why would you listen to new afx when there's fucking æ is all I can muster.....

Well, I agree. But it's kind of an unfair comparison. Cheetah send to essentially just a glorified remix single (though I still have only heard the three tracks, so I suppose I could be wrong,) while Elseq is, as you say, basically five albums' worth of new material. You're comparing the massive behemoth with a little release. Doesn't mean Autechre is better than Aphex Twin.

[guest]

well it does when you consider the fact that Richard has been churning out tepid crap for the last decade and his music isn't nearly as forward-thinking as autechre. they literally eclipsed what he was doing in the space of a record; each of those early releases can be directly compared to richard's yet are infinitely more complex, rewarding listens, and by LP5 they totally obliterate everything he has ever done.aphex has been obsolete since drukqs, and while I think his material is important in a gateway sense I think there are a lot of people at different ends of the sphere doing it much better than he is, with autechre standing in the middle dumping an unholy turd over everyone

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by Diesel

Oh my beloved great music artist can traverse the moonlit rooftops in silhouette majesty whilst simultaneously busting out 15 bars of pure rap gold in pristine liquid grammar all the while plucking hairs out his girlfriends arse. Even people who think he's a prick think he's just fabulous darling. Now you either agree with me or you're a dumb prick. Now tell me, are you a dumb prick? eh are you? tell me you're a dumb prick dagnabbit ! tell me so I can wank myself silly you fucking priiiiick!!

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Diesel again.