[automatic bzooty]

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

how many of those bands lost members, split up, or turned rubbish due to drug use?

bowie got vastly worse when he quit coke.

Originally Posted by notyourfiend

I've actually gotten shocked reactions when I've mentioned that she makes (...made) some pretty swank music. [/i]

Were those reactions coming from somebody on this forum? I wouldn't be surprised.

[Toilet & Bowels]

Originally Posted by swa(y)

most...but....thats not the point.

the point is, people will def. be listening to these bands LONG after bikini kill and the like are forgotten about.

maybe its sad, i dont know. its most def. true though.

your ability to continually miss the point of what people say as a means to avoid your arguements being discredited only serves to make you look increasingly stupid. just thought i'd let you know.

[infinitemusic]

Originally Posted by swa(y)

it really is.

live through this is one of my fav. female fronted albums ever. ever ever ever.

its pretty + brutal.

courtney is a savage beast.

I dunno, Live Through This doesn't really appeal to me. I get "pretty and brutal" from Pretty on the Inside. I mean, that part in "Mrs. Jones" is sooo purty.

celebrity skin is not hole.

++

the guitar sound on retard girl especially but also on the other early shit sounds so dirty and nasty and awesome. & there are few people who sing with such genuine rage.

I have genuinely never heard a better guitar sound than on that album. "Turpentine" especially.. the opening notes are just so sick and wrong.

Listening to any of their early stuff while high is incredibly disturbing, by the way. It's a really creepy feeling.

[Toilet & Bowels]

Originally Posted by swa(y)

im fine with that.

its deliberate though, i assure you.

but still...yes...thanks.

yesyesyesyesyes.

no problem, you've being doing it all through this thread and it's made you look stupid.

[Toilet & Bowels]

it doesn't bother me or offend me, i'm just trying to help you.
i won't put you on ignore, if i did that i wouldn't be able to help you in future when you say something stupid again.

[Satan]

break it up, ladies

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Satan

break it up, ladies

shush, don't spoil the fun...

 

[notyourfiend]

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

Originally Posted by demonrail666
if all that riot grrrl was meant to be was a way for girls to 'rock just as hard as the boys' then it was a lot less interesting than I thought. Despite the name, there were boys involved in riot grrrl too and from my memory the idea was never to reach some kind of equilibrium with the rock world. My memory of it is that it was more an attempt to find some kind of an alternative to it. It rejected ideas like technique, gear fetish and and other coventions that were staples of the mainstream rock world, and had begun to find their way into alternative rock via bands like dinosaur. A lot of those ideas were borrowed from the post-punk/c86 era but, as secondhand and maybe even naive as those ideas may have been, they were far more exciting than merely campaigning for women to be taken seriously while rocking out during guitar solos. Vixen had already sort of done that.


yeah, it's not like a rock version of hollywood feminism which means women get to maim and kill on screen as much as men do.

Both of you so totally got it down. Thank you so much for articulating this point so well. Seriously. I completely agree with both of you. I wish you could see how big the smile of my face is right now.

[Satan]

Originally Posted by automatic bzooty

bowie got vastly worse when he quit coke.

this

every musician i can think of was waaaaay better when they were on the bad shit. especially the smackheads.

[notyourfiend]

Originally Posted by swa(y)

.

find a thread where i tried hard to look intelligent.

I'd say this one but you'd probably try even harder.

You'll probably say something about others and myself trying to do the same thing...the difference is that we actually engaged with the discussion at hand without changing the topic/disregarding the points that were made or resulting to banal/inappropriate gestures. Once again, I seriously do hope that this is only an online persona....

[notyourfiend]

Originally Posted by swa(y)

and you speak as if you are a part of something that was well over + dead when you were like what, seven?

im sorry, its just annoying.

You know man, influence is a really rad phenomenon. I'm not the only person who has been influenced by stuff of the past. And Girls Rock Camp is a direct riot grrrl influence....in 2009.

But yes...I am, in fact, proud that am a current participant and occasional leader in a happening feminist community....in the real-o-sphere. One where we do more than scream and jump around obnoxiously. And I'm not the only person involved who lists riot grrrl as an influence.


For yr sake....I believe I speak for others when I graciously ask you to stop. At this point yr arguments have failed to make any logical sense since you are refusing to actually engage with any topic. All yr trying to do is to be a jerk.

But if you insist on fighting...the lameness is honestly kind of assuming.

Originally Posted by swa(y)

and what if it isnt? what would that mean to you, "grrrl"?

swa(y), you are being childishly obnoxious, here.

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by swa(y)

and you speak as if you are a part of something that was well over + dead when you were like what, seven?

im sorry, its just annoying.

And you were how old when Funhouse came out?

[Toilet & Bowels]

so here's a conundrum, if someone was to beat you in the head with a hammer how many blows would it take to bash some sense into you? or would it leave you retarded, and if so would anyone be able to tell the difference? or would smashing your head with a hammer just kill you? and if it did kill you would that be preferable?

[Satan]

when did toilet bowls turn into such a smug-in-that-way-only-an-englishman-can-be-asshole?

[Toilet & Bowels]

Originally Posted by Satan

when did toilet bowls turn into such a smug-in-that-way-only-an-englishman-can-be-asshole?

probably around the same time you turned into an average internet moron

[Satan]

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

probably around the same time you turned into an average internet moron

oh shit!
i didnt say that to be a cunt. i love it.

[Satan]

where did you go, come back and abuse me some more!

[Satan]

HEY!


come back here! call me a whore and slap me around! rub dirt in my face! take my pot away and smoke it in front of me!



fucker.