[gast30]

we simply don't have something to mesure the universe with
humans can use a selfcreated model to mesure things
and humans have a system that uses the circumference of the earth : by 24h and so on

if you look at the universe expanding you can hold other systems who are more easy and help the human perception

if we go back to the a*beam that directly starts from the center of the big bang to you

it is the rewind of what happend in the universe

big bang * >>> expanding >>>> multiversum for your life follows then >> goldilock >> life in water starts >> evolution >> specie starts to walk >> you

and that is simply the rewind

[gast30]

the rewind of all that is visable to us
the rest of infinity is invisable
with the next generation hubbles well see more, i hope

[gast30]

aha so that is the doppler shift

end of the spectrum <<<< the observer >>>> begin of the spectrum

and what did gast30 say: the observer is bio-activity / the brain

[gast30]

whit that said, this muliversum of the 2 legged creature that is surrounded by infinty is going to let the brainmachine have it's sleep-function going
to wake up the next day in the infinty
the same infinity as before the sleep only a bit more expanded

[floatingslowly]

Perhaps I was misguided in using "doppler" to describe the relativistic nature of time experienced by accelerated bodies, as I was not intending it to descibe a true red-shift (although if time was prismatic, I'd assume that to be the case).

My vague, and granted poorly worded point was: the proof of time's existence lies in the ability of separate observers to measure its passing at different speeds in relation to their own movement through space.

Were time simply some grand illusion, created by the human mind in some pale attempt at encapsulating universal law, one would suspect that the measurement would be the same, regardless of individual velocity.

As a side-note, I find it interesting that suchfriendsisdangerous may finally find reason to be in agreeance, being the only SYG Coptic that I know of.

Merry Christmas, friend. Your posts are ever and always appreciated.

[Rob Instigator]

time stops when we're balls-deep right?

[gast30]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

time stops when we're balls-deep right?

i think time stops when you live in the now of normal bio-activity, the normal animal state of brain

all animals live constantly in the now

[Rob Instigator]

we ALL live in the Now. consciousness or ability to think has nothing to do with it. What consciousness allows is the willful travel to the past through memory, but it is just an illusion.

tons of animals understand time and understand causality and know that when signals from the universe/sun/weather dictate a change in behaviour.

[Rob Instigator]

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0110142129.htm

Ever since he was a kid growing up in Germany, Holger Müller has been asking himself a fundamental question: What is time?
That question has now led Müller, today an assistant professor of physics at the University of California, Berkeley, to a fundamentally new way of measuring time.
Taking advantage of the fact that, in nature, matter can be both a particle and a wave, he has discovered a way to tell time by counting the oscillations of a matter wave. A matter wave's frequency is 10 billion times higher than that of visible light.
"A rock is a clock, so to speak," Müller said.

[Rob Instigator]

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/scienc...183823151.html Why Time is a Social Construct How different cultures answer the question "what is time?"

[gast30]

it is just something you mix robert schunk
motion with time

keep things clear
because if you have 100 balls moving in a space
this make not create time

[gast30]

it is just something you mix robert schunk
motion with time

keep things clear
because if you have 100 balls moving in a space
this make not create time

[floatingslowly]

The balls and their given velocity do not create time, but require it for movement through space.

D = R x T

[Rob Instigator]

space...I believe in spacee

[floatingslowly]

I had me a vision; there wasn't any televison.

[gast30]

Originally Posted by floatingslowly

The balls and their given velocity do not create time, but require it for movement through space.

D = R x T

NO
time did not make the big bang possible

your theory is: the big bang, movement trough space, is only possible if there is time

time is nothing more then a word humans have created

[Rob Instigator]

time was CREATED in the "big bang".

I really hope that the big bang was a queef from the mother goddess. wouldn't that be great?

[floatingslowly]

Originally Posted by gast30

NO
time did not make the big bang possible

your theory is: the big bang, movement trough space, is only possible if there is time

time is nothing more then a word humans have created

YES.

Time had nothing to do with the beeg bung, gravity did.

Distance equals rate times TIME is a formula, not a theory, however, no object in this universe (note: I did not state multiverse) can travel any distance without time.

MATH:

Rate = 299,792,458 m/s (c)
Time = ZERO N/A NIL

299,792,457 m/s x 0 = 0

Distance = ZERO N/A NIL

In fact, we could take this further and state that due to the relation of time and space in the universal physical constant (c), without time, THERE WOULD BE NO MASS OR ENERGY. No strings could vibrate.

Mo = Eo/C2

DIG????

[gast30]

not at the moment
i'm too stoned to let the brainmachine work

i think like this if there was no big bang then this empty space was also in 1 infinte dimension

[Rob Instigator]

there was no "space" before the bang. space and time were created at the bang. whatever was before is incomprehensible to us, and unreachable. Unless we can travel through a black hole.

I always thought that a black hole could create a singularity which would shoot out of our universe and create it's own universe, starting with it's own big bang. multiverses!