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Originally Posted by Severian

No offense but I absolutely hated this bleak depressing sonofabitch of a movie. Just sad bastard city. And the main character annoyed me.

hahahaha yeah he's a pathetic dweeb, and highly punchable

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anyway it's a long weekend so there's time for moobys

nicolas roeg's "insignificance" (1985)

 

fucking great. totally unexpected. but it was criterion channel, so not so unexpected...

later i found out this was originally a play by one terry johnson (british, i didn't know of him before). it's been ages since i've lived in a decent city where one can see an actual play and so i'm mostly ignorant of theater these days.

so this morning by coincidence i saw another filmed play (or was it a broadway show? but the movie has no music)

 

this one is also on criterion, but packaged with a program of screwball comedies, which has a great intro by patton oswalt: https://www.criterionchannel.com/vid...rewball-comedy

[_tunic_]

 

great movie. There's a US remake with Jake Gyllenhaal, which I haven't seen. But this is the original one from Denmark.

I'm reluctant to see the US version now, even though it might be good, I would already know what's going to happen. They did rewrite the script

[Severian]

 

Didn’t think I’d like this at first but it totally pays off

[Severian]

 

‘Twas good indeed

[_tunic_]

Originally Posted by _tunic_

I watched this movie a few months back already but it's somehow still stuck in my head

 

That Yul Brynner is very impressive as the robotic villain!! Definitely was a big inspiration for the robocop in Terminator II. Guess I will need to watch Westworld the series now too ....
I'll watch the movie again first

 

I watched Westworld again last night.
Yul Brynner should have played the Terminator instead of Schwarzenegger!

Still haven't seen the series, perhaps I will, or not





Also, but already a few weeks back i saw this one:

 

I usually skip these types of movies, biographies etc. This one was very entertaining though

[Severian]

Originally Posted by _tunic_

 

I usually skip these types of movies, biographies etc. This one was very entertaining though

Yeah this was quite good if I recall. Except when Margot Robbie played Tonya at *FOURTEEN YEARS OLD* for a second. Oof.

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I couldn't help but cheese it up with Hackers.

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Originally Posted by Severian

Yeah this was quite good if I recall. Except when Margot Robbie played Tonya at *FOURTEEN YEARS OLD* for a second. Oof.

having not seen the movie, but news of the actual events, i'd say margot robbie is way too hot to play a believable tonya harding. she should have been the pretty one who had her knee broken.

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anyway caught a couple of 90s movies this weekend:

THE TALENTED MR. RIPLEY (ANTHONY MINGHELLA, 1999, his screenplay base on a patricia highsmith novel)

 

the cast on paper may seem like a collection of annoying 90s celebrities (matt damon, jude law, gwyneth) but damon is soooooooo fucking creeeeepy in this one, and the plot is so very good. the glorious cate blanchett and the dead philip seymour hoffmann have minor but brilliant parts in it. the plot is so very good. patricia highsmith had a fucking twisted mind hahahaha. apparently she was a terrible person, but hey, she sure could write.

GLENGARRY GLEN ROSS (JAMES FOLEY, 1992, david mamet screenplay based on his own original play)

 

everybody remembers the movie these days because of the alec baldwin speech that has become a youtube meme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elrnAl6ygeM

and sure it's a great and ridiculous and hilarious scene, but there's an entire universe beyond that scene, and it's great. well, it's dismal actually, but it's done very well.

first, it's based on a david mamet play, and mamet himself wrote the screenplay and added that famous scene. so you get his trademark dialogue which is always fucking great.

then sure baldwin is great in it, but the movie fatures also: al pacino, jack lemmon, kevin spacey, ed harris, alan arkin, who take up most of the screen time and deliver some great fucking lines in this very well filmed play. jonathan pryce too, looking even more pathetic than in brazil.

now some people may say oooh kevin spacy is a bad man, but that's between him and the police. in this movie he plays his part very well. which makes him a good man in this movie. in others too by the way. but anyway i digress.

 

jack lemmon won an oscar here and i don't know who was up against him but it looks thoroughly well deserved, and he's brilliant and pitiful and his character reminds me of willy loman, a sad broken old salesman. pacino is fucking great, his part is great, he does it so well. ed harris does not play a villain exactly (he' so good at playing villains), he's just an angry resentful guy here. alan arkin plays... i don't know, someone who looks and acts a little like a bird hahahahaha. he's quiet, quietly anxious, and so good in his role. i don't know, excellent cast and screenplay. a++++++ will watch again.

oh and of course this was a rewatch. mamet's movies deserve regular rewatches. house of games, anyone?

[_tunic_]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

having not seem the movie, but news of the actual events, i'd say margot robbie is way too hot to play a believable tonya harding. she should have been the pretty one who had her knee broken.

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I, Tonya (2017) - scene comparisons

It's too long ago for me to recall the actual events, but Margo did a great job in this movie, and most of the time she resembles her very closely (which for me wouldn't have been even necessary). I wonder how much of the skating she did herself though.
The other one is only barely featured in the movie.

But the mom is actually the star, must have been such a laugh to play her.

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Originally Posted by _tunic_

I, Tonya (2017) - scene comparisons

It's too long ago for me to recall the actual events, but Margo did a great job in this movie, and most of the time she resembles her very closely (which for me wouldn't have been even necessary). I wonder how much of the skating she did herself though.
The other one is only barely featured in the movie.

But the mom is actually the star, must have been such a laugh to play her.

oh, margot is fantastic; luminous even. but see, the footage comparison illustrates the problem for me (in theory, anyway).

check out the long skating sequence in that video. the difference in hairdos alone *says it all.*

okay here's a closeup:

 

for me, margot is never gonna be able to play it _ugly_ enough, ha ha ha. she's just too beautiful to be a tonya harding, even when she grimaces or tries to look unpleasant.

she would need prosthetics, the way that charlize theron wore prosthetics for "monster" (and still looked way better than the serial killer she portrayed, lol)

 

hahahhaha maybe im being too harsh on poor tonya. but yeah, fuck, i never liked her.

 

[Severian]

Glengarry Glen Ross is excellent but they never tell you who’s Glen, who’s Garry and who’s Ross!!!

I saw Talented Mr. Ripley in THE THEATER, Jesus fuck I feel old, goddamn.

I watched Better off Dead (ridiculous film) and that horror movie everyone was gushing about, X. The one with the prequel that came out the same year? It was fine. Pretty predictable and occasionally dumb but there were some cool stylistic choices.

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Originally Posted by Severian

Glengarry Glen Ross is excellent but they never tell you who’s Glen, who’s Garry and who’s Ross!!!

I saw Talented Mr. Ripley in THE THEATER, Jesus fuck I feel old, goddamn.

glengarry is the new hot property they're gonna sell ("the glengarry leads")

glen ross is an old property they once sold. gets mentioned i think by jack lemmon and pacino recalling their old glories and somewhere you can see a brochure "glen ross farms".

the title to me after rewatch is related to that talk pacino gives jonathan pryce at the table when he's plying him with drinks, hahaha. he says that in life you're either looking forward or you're looking back. then asks "where is the moment...?" great dialogue.

and yeah lol, i watched mr. creepley way back when too, at a multiplex. brrrrr! i still remember walking out surprised.

[Rob Instigator]

The banshees of Innisherin (sp?)

 

Jesus fuck, what is wrong with Irish people? What is the fucking point of this bullshit bleak, useless movie? Fuck, I laughed at the sad sack for 45 minutes, and then it all goes into just the bleakest, most pointless sadness. why make this film? Why write this film?
I fucking hate shit like this.

one guy writes it and directs it so he controls the story and thinks he is working out some childhood trauma or family horror on film, making us al watch it to and suffer with his dumb ass.

Fuck all these people. Fuck everyone in this film. They all deserve to live in a far uglier place than the isle of innisherin.

Fuck the director for making me watch another sad sack fim about white people's made up problems.

[Rob Instigator]

I must say I did enjoy In Bruges, although that too was a slight piece of shit barely worth watching.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

glengarry is the new hot property they're gonna sell ("the glengarry leads")

glen ross is an old property they once sold. gets mentioned i think by jack lemmon and pacino recalling their old glories and somewhere you can see a brochure "glen ross farms".

the title to me after rewatch is related to that talk pacino gives jonathan pryce at the table when he's plying him with drinks, hahaha. he says that in life you're either looking forward or you're looking back. then asks "where is the moment...?" great dialogue.

Lmao, I was making a very stupid joke. But thank you.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

The banshees of Innisherin (sp?)

 

Jesus fuck, what is wrong with Irish people? What is the fucking point of this bullshit bleak, useless movie? Fuck, I laughed at the sad sack for 45 minutes, and then it all goes into just the bleakest, most pointless sadness. why make this film? Why write this film?
I fucking hate shit like this.

one guy writes it and directs it so he controls the story and thinks he is working out some childhood trauma or family horror on film, making us al watch it to and suffer with his dumb ass.

Fuck all these people. Fuck everyone in this film. They all deserve to live in a far uglier place than the isle of innisherin.

Fuck the director for making me watch another sad sack fim about white people's made up problems.

Yeah, it’s a good movie but also fuck this stupid fucking movie. I was hyping it up for months to my girlfriend, based on 3 Billboards, Seven Psychopaths and In Bruges, but it ended up being a complete misery-fest. And my girlfriend SOBBED at *that one scene* and I felt like a total fuck.

If I were Colin Farrell’s character I would have murdered that stupid psychotic malcontent fiddling fuck in his sleep and pissed on his corpse.

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1992's Dracula because a podcast I'm a fan of covered it recently and I want it fresh-ish in my mind.

[Rob Instigator]

Originally Posted by Severian

Yeah, it’s a good movie but also fuck this stupid fucking movie. I was hyping it up for months to my girlfriend, based on 3 Billboards, Seven Psychopaths and In Bruges, but it ended up being a complete misery-fest. And my girlfriend SOBBED at *that one scene* and I felt like a total fuck.

If I were Colin Farrell’s character I would have murdered that stupid psychotic malcontent fiddling fuck in his sleep and pissed on his corpse.

My wife was horrified.

I think the whole point was that Colin Ferrell's character is so FUCKING STUPID that he doesn't understand the man he thinks of as a best friend LOATHES him.

what a waste of time and money.

These are the kinds of stories that make me read very few fiction novels.

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

My wife was horrified.

I think the whole point was that Colin Ferrell's character is so FUCKING STUPID that he doesn't understand the man he thinks of as a best friend LOATHES him.

what a waste of time and money.

These are the kinds of stories that make me read very few fiction novels.

i haven't seen this, but wouldn't such illuminations into people's characters be one of the important social functions of fiction? the exploration of morality, relationships, etc?

i mean... there are a lot of stupids who think other people love them when they actually don't. abused people have what's called a "fantasy bond". easy to name, but harder to illustrate.

again i'm saying this *not having seen the movie.* and i probably won't, having read your reviews, hahaha. i'm just going by what you say in this bit i'm quoting, about the uses of fiction.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

i haven't seen this, but wouldn't such illuminations into people's characters be one of the important social functions of fiction? the exploration of morality, relationships, etc?

i mean... there are a lot of stupids who think other people love them when they actually don't. abused people have what's called a "fantasy bond". easy to name, but harder to illustrate.

again i'm saying this *not having seen the movie.* and i probably won't, having read your reviews, hahaha. i'm just going by what you say in this bit i'm quoting, about the uses of fiction.

Yeah, but, like, ideally there would be some shred of redemption — somewhere.
This movie is bleaker than fuck. It’s like misery porn masquerading as black comedy. It’s well made but fuck it I am too old to pay to be bummed the fuck out.

It’s also a metaphor for the Irish civil war, so that’s in the background. But holy hell I’ve seen literal WAR movies that are vastly more enjoyable and vastly more upsetting that still manage to be worth the time and energy.