[pbradley]

Originally Posted by the ikara cult

Fine
Extend your point to include tables, sofas, colostomy bags, girraffes with 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 necks and every other thing you can possibly imagine including the God you are thinking of now, and now, and now, and now, which are equally likely then you might have a point.

You could of course acknowlege the limitations of the human mind and its inability to assert any of these things, but coming from such a prime beef example as yourself you probbaly wont.
til then

You know, I did state before that I'm an atheist.

But I am also well aware that 'atheism' as it is commonly referred to is against an metaphysical entity. Metaphysics is the empty room and, like the neo-Kantian I am, I say that that room is locked.

[knox]

Originally Posted by wellcharge

i had really good beer,la fin du monde, and now i'm drinking shit and honestly i like the shit better,sorry gmku

its just better that way because you can drink more and piss loads.

[pbradley]

Originally Posted by wellcharge

i had really good beer,la fin du monde, and now i'm drinking shit and honestly i like the shit better,sorry gmku

Michelob's Porter tastes like rotten asparagus.

I'm drinking it right now.

[the ikara cult]

I evidently missed your point, but it wasnt very clear i must say

[pbradley]

Originally Posted by Pookie

reasonable atheists accept that god or gods may exist

What's an unreasonable atheist?

[pbradley]

Originally Posted by the ikara cult

I evidently missed your point, but it wasnt very clear i must say

The chair example wasn't clear enough?

[the ikara cult]

Originally Posted by pbradley

The chair example wasn't clear enough?

It might have been, but you didnt make it so when you wrote it

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by Pookie

All the "evidence" suggests quite the opposite (read the bible).

eh, I read three times cover to cover and read it all day.. but God is not limited to the Bible.

Originally Posted by Pookie

And less of the SuchFriends hating people. He's one of the good guys.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Pookie again.

Originally Posted by Pookie

How does a lack of belief in something (atheism) require faith?

Originally Posted by Pookie

That's what it IS. Look in a dictionary and it will say Atheism: a lack of belief.

The lack of belief implies both impicitly and directly a belief which you don't have. You believe in not believe, because what you literaly believe when you say "I have no belief (in God)" is "I believe that there is no God." It does not necessarily imply a vindictive motive or a antagonistic perspective, just a belief that the belief of othes is wrong. Somebody might believe in going to war in Iraq, because they believe it my opposition to war in general also becomes a specific believe against the belief in the war. But pdbradley already covered this very eloquently already

Originally Posted by pbradley

In responding to this, I would like to refer back to my example of the chair in the closed room. An atheism of this definition assumes both hard atheism and agnosticism. By atheism, let's say it is achairism. There is an assertion of the lack of a chair and a suspension of a lack of a chair. To further answer this question, we must contrast belief from knowledge. What would we call knowledge that there is no chair? Achairism? No, that can't be. To be charitable, we must consider not an assertion of a lack of a chair but the opposition to the belief in an chair. So, considering the etymology, we get an a-chairism and an a-chair-ism. That is, 'not a belief in chair' or 'a belief that chair is not.' This distinction is schismatic and we return to the question: what would we call the knowledge that there is no chair? What is atheism as both opposition and denial? I mean denial here in the sense of making a conclusive metaphysical statement (or, rather, a denial of metaphysics). As we should see, agnosticism makes a perfect statement of the suspension of a lack of god/chair. Thus, this leaves atheism as an affirmative statement against the existence of God and not the belief in the existence of God.

Originally Posted by wellcharge

if you ever try crappy ukrainian beers you will no longer believe this

no my friend, I would take a slavutichk

 

over a Coors or even worse a Schlitz any day of the week.. tap the Carpathians my friend

 

[pbradley]

Originally Posted by the ikara cult

It might have been, but you didnt make it so when you wrote it

Well, we might be on polar positions as to what makes sense. I have a psychosis for it. Do you?

[knox]

turned out to be the best anti-christmas thread ever.

[pbradley]

GOD bless us, everyone.

[jon boy]

Originally Posted by knox

turned out to be the best anti-christmas thread ever.

i tried for so many years!

[the ikara cult]

Originally Posted by pbradley

Well, we might be on polar positions as to what makes sense. I have a psychosis for it. Do you?

Psychosis is your word, not mine

[pbradley]

Originally Posted by the ikara cult

Psychosis is your word, not mine

Personally, I think everyone has one psychosis or another. I love my psychosis. My friend serving a residence in New York loves his medical psychosis.

[the ikara cult]

Originally Posted by pbradley

Personally, I think everyone has one psychosis or another. I love my psychosis. My friend serving a residence in New York loves his medical psychosis.

as these things are set on spectrums, yeah, but full psychosis is a heavy end of the deal

[pbradley]

I believe psychosis, in the non-psychiatry way I use it, is to have real value in life. To put your chips in, as it were. Of course I try to moderate it, but to do so is to be aware. I may suffer but I wouldn't kill myself if I found that I was wrong about something.

[verme (prevaricator)]

just don't tell my mum, ok?

i want cake and presents.

[knox]

but psychosis is way more intense when you're on speed.

[GeneticKiss]

Threads like this make me glad this board isn't heavily moderated...

Try this on another forum and it'll be like, "This is getting boring/You're offending people/whatever LOCKED"

[knox]

fascists