SYG Artists Compilation - Page 13

Genteel Death · 02.08.2011, 02:54 PM

Make it fun then little flower.

hevusa · 02.08.2011, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Genteel Death

If hevusa feels like staying on, he's more than welcome.

Really, thanks, but no thanks. A compilation dictated by demands from musicians screaming "don't touch my perfect track" is doomed to fail. Some tracks will be so quiet compared to others that will (by juxtaposition) sound too loud. It will make EVERYONE's stuff sound like shit.

NO THANKS! If it was being done properly I wouldn't mind including the revised version of my track.

Derek · 02.08.2011, 07:27 PM

Derek · 02.08.2011, 07:28 PM

well, now that hevusa isn't associated with this compilation then i guess we don't need to hear his whining anymore, correct?

hevusa · 02.08.2011, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Derek

well, now that hevusa isn't associated with this compilation then i guess we don't need to hear his whining anymore, correct?

right-o chap!

Genteel Death · 02.08.2011, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Derek

well, now that hevusa isn't associated with this compilation then i guess we don't need to hear his whining anymore, correct?

Nope.

knox · 02.08.2011, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by hevusa

Some tracks will be so quiet compared to others that will (by juxtaposition) sound too loud.

Tragedy!

Diesel · 02.09.2011, 05:29 AM

It doesn't matter whether some tracks are mastered and some aren't. All thats required is the volume being the same on each track.

terminal pharmacy · 02.09.2011, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Diesel

It doesn't matter whether some tracks are mastered and some aren't. All thats required is the volume being the same on each track.

yeah mastering!

nicfit · 02.09.2011, 06:21 AM

Isn't that just "normalization"?
Assuming I get what dieselman meant...

terminal pharmacy · 02.09.2011, 06:25 AM

Alot of progs normalise at different levels. Slight variations but different nonetheless.

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Originally Posted by nicfit

Isn't that just "normalization"?
Assuming I get what dieselman meant...

Diesel · 02.09.2011, 08:56 AM

Ay normalising. Using your ears.

greedrex · 02.09.2011, 09:28 AM

lol at this thread, dOOdz.
Priceless.

rappard · 02.09.2011, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by greedrex

lol at this thread, dOOdz.
Priceless.

Yes, endless amusement value.

Florya · 02.09.2011, 10:56 AM

"you are a fool if you think your music would sound good inbetween two tracks mastered TOTALLY differently. Other people's tracks affect the way YOUR music would be heard"
A comment left by 'hevusa' on a previous post.

Whoever this idiot is just doesn't get it.

If my track was the sound of leaves rustling in a gentle breeze, that's exactly what I would want it to sound like. If my track was placed between two harsh noise tracks then so bo be it, I would still want it to be at its original volume, not cranked up to 11 to match the surrounding music. That would ruin my track. Sensible sequencing of the tracks would remove nearly all these so called 'mastering' problems

Mastering is an art form in itself and can fundamentally change the way a track sounds by the skillful application of filters and EQ. But the person doing the mastering needs to be experienced in the genre of music they are working on. It is not something that can be applied in a generic way to every type of music.
By the nature of the music that I write, fluctuations in frequencies and clashing harmonics produce sounds of their own that were never written into the original track, and after spending days, sometimes weeks, getting those frequencies and harmonics to sound just right, the last thing I'm going to do is to hand the track over to someone who's going filter the frequencies in an attempt to make it sound 'good', thereby undoing all my work.
So while Glice and GD have been kind enough to ask me to donate a track to this project, I am happy to do so. But if the track I donate doesn't fit, then by all means leave it out. I'm not being sniffy about it, I'm just saying that I have no problem with my track being dropped if my intransigence over mastering lowers the quality of the project as a whole.

hevusa · 02.09.2011, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Florya

If my track was the sound of leaves rustling in a gentle breeze, that's exactly what I would want it to sound like. If my track was placed between two harsh noise tracks then so bo be it, I would still want it to be at its original volume

So you are volunteering your track to be in-between two quiet tracks then?!?!
<sarcasm>Because that would probably make your louder track sound REALLY good in comparison!</sarcasm>.

This might just be the first compilation in history that was recorded in various bedrooms but all the tracks are "exactly what I would want it to sound like". Fucking ridiculous (but funny all the same).

Savage Clone · 02.09.2011, 11:47 AM

I don't record in a bedroom.

hevusa · 02.09.2011, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone

I don't record in a bedroom.

practice spaces, basements, garages, in the box... it doesn't really matter. the point is all the tracks will be from different locations (mostly untreated acoustically), recorded with various gear, with various levels of recording ability. Some will already be "mastered", others will not. it won't be an enjoyable listen.

Derek · 02.09.2011, 12:11 PM

you aren't involved in this anymore, why are you still going on some retarded diatribe?

Savage Clone · 02.09.2011, 12:30 PM

The gear in our studio is audiophile quality and produces recordings superior to many commercial studios.
Whatever. This is for fun. I had a track just sitting there doing nothing, and was happy to donate it. I'm not going to be precious about it. It is for fun.

02.08.2011, 02:54 PM	#241
Genteel Death invito al cielo Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 8,744	Make it fun then little flower.
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02.08.2011, 07:27 PM	#243
Derek invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,095	ugh.
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02.08.2011, 07:28 PM	#244
Derek invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,095	well, now that hevusa isn't associated with this compilation then i guess we don't need to hear his whining anymore, correct?
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02.09.2011, 05:29 AM	#248
Diesel the destroyed room Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 616	It doesn't matter whether some tracks are mastered and some aren't. All thats required is the volume being the same on each track.
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02.09.2011, 06:21 AM	#250
nicfit invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: banana boat Posts: 15,570	Isn't that just "normalization"? Assuming I get what dieselman meant... __________________ 11:11 11-11-11 I Ascended.
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02.09.2011, 08:56 AM	#252
Diesel the destroyed room Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 616	Ay normalising. Using your ears.
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02.09.2011, 09:28 AM	#253
greedrex invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: in yr fotobukit Posts: 6,588	lol at this thread, dOOdz. Priceless. __________________ Greed Recordings bandcamp ~The Rex~, stalkin' yr shit since 2008.
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02.09.2011, 10:56 AM	#255
Florya expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: a little world, all of my own. Posts: 1,668	"you are a fool if you think your music would sound good inbetween two tracks mastered TOTALLY differently. Other people's tracks affect the way YOUR music would be heard" A comment left by 'hevusa' on a previous post. Whoever this idiot is just doesn't get it. If my track was the sound of leaves rustling in a gentle breeze, that's exactly what I would want it to sound like. If my track was placed between two harsh noise tracks then so bo be it, I would still want it to be at its original volume, not cranked up to 11 to match the surrounding music. That would ruin my track. Sensible sequencing of the tracks would remove nearly all these so called 'mastering' problems Mastering is an art form in itself and can fundamentally change the way a track sounds by the skillful application of filters and EQ. But the person doing the mastering needs to be experienced in the genre of music they are working on. It is not something that can be applied in a generic way to every type of music. By the nature of the music that I write, fluctuations in frequencies and clashing harmonics produce sounds of their own that were never written into the original track, and after spending days, sometimes weeks, getting those frequencies and harmonics to sound just right, the last thing I'm going to do is to hand the track over to someone who's going filter the frequencies in an attempt to make it sound 'good', thereby undoing all my work. So while Glice and GD have been kind enough to ask me to donate a track to this project, I am happy to do so. But if the track I donate doesn't fit, then by all means leave it out. I'm not being sniffy about it, I'm just saying that I have no problem with my track being dropped if my intransigence over mastering lowers the quality of the project as a whole. __________________ it takes an old guy like bloodbeach'85 to get anything right - atari 2600 listening mirror @ Soundcloud http://soundcloud.com/listening-mirror
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02.09.2011, 11:47 AM	#257
Savage Clone invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11,290	I don't record in a bedroom.
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02.09.2011, 12:11 PM	#259
Derek invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,095	you aren't involved in this anymore, why are you still going on some retarded diatribe?
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02.09.2011, 12:30 PM	#260
Savage Clone invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11,290	The gear in our studio is audiophile quality and produces recordings superior to many commercial studios. Whatever. This is for fun. I had a track just sitting there doing nothing, and was happy to donate it. I'm not going to be precious about it. It is for fun.
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