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#281 |
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may smashed again
by some 60 votes |
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#282 |
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2nd referendum plz
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#283 |
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Her rubbish deal could be voted on three times, with the results for everyone to see, but asking people what they would like to happen a second time is apparently undemocratic. Hmmm...ok.
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#284 |
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watched her speak to parliament today and seems like a fucking egomaniac.
clearly failed and clearly has no support. isn’t this when they fall on their swords? if so, she should proceed, and have new elections, because her tenure has been a fucking disaster. why won’t she admit she sucks, and quit? nobody wants her. the DUPs just said they’d rather stay in europe than damage the union. monday some runoffs proposed. |
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She treats the negotiations as her own personal mission, which seems to be her approach to everything. She won't accept that she's not gonna deliver a solution and if anything is now more of an obstacle to any progress being made.
I've always disagreed with the principle of a second referendum but I'd accept one now. But it would have to be a straight fight between no-deal leave and business-as-usual-remain. I'd vote to leave but would accept either outcome as being better than this fucking around trying to please everyone. And no power within Parliament to take control of the decision once it was made. Leave means leave, Remain means remain. A general election would achieve nothing. |
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oh, “the people’s vote”
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I have a problem with the term "people's vote" (who voted in the last one?) but essentially yes: let's leave this once and for all to the British public, rather than a bunch of cunts in parliament.
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dont know thats what they were calling it. everything has a name now. like brexit. hilarious to hear the pm saying “brexit” with a straight face.
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Those most vocally calling for a second referndum have used the term "people's vote", which for me was precisely what the first one was, but anyway.
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i can’t believe (there’s that phrase) may’s incompetence in this: triggering article 50 with no plan, etc eta: or better ![]() |
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#291 |
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The original refendum was a simple decision between leaving and staying. It was never conditional on any kind of exit deal.
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but wasnt the leave campaign sold on the basis dictating terms to europe and what not?
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Both sides had lots of different perspectives but ultimately the decision was a simple one.
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nothing ever simple about divorces...
maybe “simplistic” is the right adjective a simplistic choice ultimately a false one |
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Especially when you involve lawyers/politicians
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that’s precisely why i don’t want medicare for all
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You're gonna become the equivalent of whatever the QAnon people will be in 20 years time as your country only ever continues to make the case that socialism is needed and you feel more and more detached from how people actually see the world. My uncle was Nostradamus alongside my other uncle who worked at Nintendo so you can trust my instinct here.
Brexit? Give us a vote then give us a general election. Clean slate. Let the chips fall where they may. |
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but nostrildamo, ive always been an outsider
who cares? not a moocow |
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Well hey if you're happy with that inevitable outcome then I can't really tell you off for it. Free will and all.
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yes
anyway sticking to the news (not the faraway future) looks like a customs union is close to a majority... |
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