[atsonicpark]

I haven't played it but it looks lousy, like another of those haunting ground, rule of rose, etc. type games. Cheap thrills. Might be worth $5, but you can probably get disgaea and odin sphere for that price by now, so...

[Keeping It Simple]

Originally Posted by Dr. Eugene Felikson

 

Decided to test out my brand new NES Max that I picked up at the pawn shop today.

 

It was my first time using this controller, and I've gotta say - it plays like a charm! Definitely not as cool as the NES Advantage, but I'd say it's a new favorite aside from that. Now all I have to get is the R.O.B. (I'll finally be able to play Gyromite!) and a Powerglove, and I'll officially have every official first party controller made for the system (including the 'dogbone', and both versions of the lightgun).

I picked up Wild Gunman too.

 

I was also looking at this game Siren, for PS2. Anyone familiar with it? It looked like a pretty neat survival horror title, but I decided that I had better check out a few reviews, and whatnot before dropping any more dough.

 

The guy on the left on the River City Ransom box art looks like Don Johnson circa Miami Vice!

[EVOLghost]

they got one of these at a used bookstore....price at 40 bucks though..
alot of their video game stuff is whey over priced..

 

[Dr. Eugene Felikson]

GBA SP's rule! That model in particular. I almost purchased that one at a pawn shop once, but it had already been sold by the time I went back to get it. Now I just have a plain black one, which is nice, but I'd trade it for the NES edition any day. I'm pretty sure NR has that one though.

[EVOLghost]

yah....NR does have one of theese.

Anyway...when I saw this....I bought The Who Live at Leeds on Vinyl....heh.

[yesca]

my dick.

[Dr. Eugene Felikson]

I've heard that one was hard.

[yesca]

BAM!

[noisereductions]

Originally Posted by EVOLghost

they got one of these at a used bookstore....price at 40 bucks though..
alot of their video game stuff is whey over priced..

 

I have this edition.

EDIT: oops you guys knew that.

[EVOLghost]

watchu pay fer it?

[atsonicpark]

I am on the last disc of D2. This has officially trumped Killer7, LSD: Dream Emulator, various Cho Aniki, and HOLY PIRACY, BADMAN! as the weirdest official game I've ever played.

I was genuinely disturbed by one of the bosses on this last disc...

SPOILERS

Basically, you meet 3 friends, and one "boyfriend" in your game, right as disc 3 ends/disc 4 starts, every single one of your friends in the game dies. One tries to kill you.. you kill him.. one turns into a monster and one sacrifices herself killing the monster dude and killing herself.. then, a little 6 year old girl who has followed you around for much of the game MELTS. Which hasn't been explained yet. She just fucking melts right in front of you. A 6 year old girl.

So, things are now INCREDIBLY depressing, as you have NO COMPANIONS. Your snowmobile is gone. Your sense of direction is gone. You find your mom and she is turns out to be a clone machine. Your "real" mom died. So your "mom" is actually a machine, and you're.. her.. clone daughter? So there are other little Lauras running around, I guess (which explains Enemy Zero and D I guess, since they both have different versions of Laura).

So, your mom begs you to kill her -- this is disturbing as hell. She SCREAMS "KILL ME. KILL ME. KILLMEKILLMEKILLMEEEEEEEEEEE. KILL MEEEEEEEEE!" so loud that it sent the volume on my tv into the red. Seriously, it came out distorted in places because she was screaming "KILL ME" so loud. You basically destroy this huge machine, that has dead naked women in water tanks, all hooked up to this main machine. I'm not sure if elements of their bodies are going into the machine, or if they're being "birthed" from the machine or something. Either way, you have to blow open the water tanks and destroy shoot to death these naked women before dismantling the machine.

Then, after you kill the machine, you notice that the two gigantic tubes sticking out of it are actually LEGS.. and the button at the center that you destroy last is a CLIT.. and a gigantic HOLE opens up... this is the vagina.

YOU NOW HAVE TO SHOOT YOUR MOM IN HER VAGINA.

The vagina, btw, is represented as a "Flower" (though still looks like a vagina.. just, with petals). The entire game, you've had to kill these weird flower enemies.. hm.

After killing her, it goes into like 15 minutes of footage of airplanes being built in reverse, nukes being dropped on Japan in reverse, stop motion of entire buildings being destroyed/constructed.. usually in reverse.. footage of dinosaurs (!?!), all as superquick flashes.. like, each image is maybe on the screen a 4th of a second (though most images are returned to), this is almost like a fucking Brakhage film as it fills your eyes with insane images, the reoccuring image in the GAME is your eyeballs, each time it shows your eyeball this LOUD AS HELL high pitched sine wave plays and disrupts the rest of the footage (which all has its own weird sounds, usually explosion sounds or just weird distorted noise).

The entire game has been an insane mindfuck but this sequence of events last night seriously destroyed my brain. It definitely inspires me for my next movie.. but yeah. This is SOME FUCKED UP SHIT. Not coincedentally, it was Warp's last game. It felt very "final" in some weird way.

[SpaceCadetHayden]

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

I am on the last disc of D2. This has officially trumped Killer7, LSD: Dream Emulator, various Cho Aniki, and HOLY PIRACY, BADMAN! as the weirdest official game I've ever played.

I was genuinely disturbed by one of the bosses on this last disc...

SPOILERS

Basically, you meet 3 friends, and one "boyfriend" in your game, right as disc 3 ends/disc 4 starts, every single one of your friends in the game dies. One tries to kill you.. you kill him.. one turns into a monster and one sacrifices herself killing the monster dude and killing herself.. then, a little 6 year old girl who has followed you around for much of the game MELTS. Which hasn't been explained yet. She just fucking melts right in front of you. A 6 year old girl.

So, things are now INCREDIBLY depressing, as you have NO COMPANIONS. Your snowmobile is gone. Your sense of direction is gone. You find your mom and she is turns out to be a clone machine. Your "real" mom died. So your "mom" is actually a machine, and you're.. her.. clone daughter? So there are other little Lauras running around, I guess (which explains Enemy Zero and D I guess, since they both have different versions of Laura).

So, your mom begs you to kill her -- this is disturbing as hell. She SCREAMS "KILL ME. KILL ME. KILLMEKILLMEKILLMEEEEEEEEEEE. KILL MEEEEEEEEE!" so loud that it sent the volume on my tv into the red. Seriously, it came out distorted in places because she was screaming "KILL ME" so loud. You basically destroy this huge machine, that has dead naked women in water tanks, all hooked up to this main machine. I'm not sure if elements of their bodies are going into the machine, or if they're being "birthed" from the machine or something. Either way, you have to blow open the water tanks and destroy shoot to death these naked women before dismantling the machine.

Then, after you kill the machine, you notice that the two gigantic tubes sticking out of it are actually LEGS.. and the button at the center that you destroy last is a CLIT.. and a gigantic HOLE opens up... this is the vagina.

YOU NOW HAVE TO SHOOT YOUR MOM IN HER VAGINA.

The vagina, btw, is represented as a "Flower" (though still looks like a vagina.. just, with petals). The entire game, you've had to kill these weird flower enemies.. hm.

After killing her, it goes into like 15 minutes of footage of airplanes being built in reverse, nukes being dropped on Japan in reverse, stop motion of entire buildings being destroyed/constructed.. usually in reverse.. footage of dinosaurs (!?!), all as superquick flashes.. like, each image is maybe on the screen a 4th of a second (though most images are returned to), this is almost like a fucking Brakhage film as it fills your eyes with insane images, the reoccuring image in the GAME is your eyeballs, each time it shows your eyeball this LOUD AS HELL high pitched sine wave plays and disrupts the rest of the footage (which all has its own weird sounds, usually explosion sounds or just weird distorted noise).

The entire game has been an insane mindfuck but this sequence of events last night seriously destroyed my brain. It definitely inspires me for my next movie.. but yeah. This is SOME FUCKED UP SHIT. Not coincedentally, it was Warp's last game. It felt very "final" in some weird way.

Fuck, dude. I need to PLAY THIS. Are there any reasonable DC emulators that I can get a ROM of this for?

[kinn]

that seriously sounds so so so brilliant.

hayden - emulator

site with roms

[kinn]

i'm dling the rom and will report back if its working or not

[atsonicpark]

check out dcisozone.com... It will hook you up, I think there's an emulator called CHANKAST. The game is 4 discs. There are a few different rips: the game is SLIGHTLY bigger than 700mb so there's a rip that downgrades all the audio and removes a cinema or two (the game switches to cinemas when you open doors or pick up items -- which some people find annoying but it works, plsu you can skip 'em with the Y button.. still, removing them isn't going to change the game at all). This is one you'll want to download if you want to burn a copy. I got a brand new copy of the game off of ebay for $25, after shipping, that had never been played. So, it's pretty easy to find if you don't want to deal with burning it (plus,a DreamCast is only like $20-30 at most pawn shops and online).

But, if you get.. Chankast I believe it's called.. there's the regular rip, which is too big to burn, but you will be able to load the ISO in the emulator. Only thing is, I dunno how the disc switching will work... I assume when it says "insert disc 2" at the end of disc 1, you'll simply load the next ISO with no problem? I have no clue, I'm sure there are already topics on this.

I HIGHLY reccomend buying a Dreamcast, since it is one of the best systems of all time, new games are still being made for it (okay, only like 2 or 3 a year, and they've all pretty much been shmups but hey). There's an AWESOME Genesis and NES emulator on it that will play every Genesis/NES game perfectly (plus, you can play arcade games -- yes, there's a great Mame emulator and romset out there -- NeoGeo, Atari, Game Boy and Game Boy Color, Game Gear, etc). Finally, there's an SNES emulator, and you can play about 75-80% of the SNES games PERFECTLY, but some of the more graphically intensive games (Treasure Hunter G, Yoshi's Island, R2: Rendering Ranger) play too slow. Still, most RPG's run perfectly, Mario World runs perfectly, Mario AllStars runs perfectly, most of the best games run perfectly... but yeah, it's worth it just for NESticle and the Genesis emulator (with complete romsets; again, all this is as dcisozone).. I bet I've put 50 hours into just playing the ROMs on there. And then the actual GAMES... fuck.. Bangai-O, Ikaruga, Grandia 2, Skies of Arcadia, Maken X, Shenmue 2, Space Channel 5, Canon Spike, Mars Matrix, Rayman 2, Street Fighter 3, Guilty Gear X, Project Justice, Border Down, Napple Tale, etc etc etc etc etc. There's just an insane amount of awesome Dreamcast games; the system was really only "around" for 2 years and there's seriously like 300 games for it, and about a third of them are AWESOME.. and easy to find. You can download every single game I just mentioned, and plenty more, with dcisozone.com.. and then, you just need a burner, some cd-r's, and discjuggler or dreamboot, and burning is simple as hell.

Really, getting a Dreamcast was probably one of the best things I've ever done. I've played the hell out of that thing. I mean, there's still some sadness with playing it, since it represents the last hardcore gaming system in a way (games like Jet Grind Radio and Seaman and Shenmue were considered killer apps for the system... today, they'd be considered "b-titles" or something... probably part of the reason that the system "failed"... there's only like 2 first person shooters for the system, since a good handful of the games -- especially the 1st party ones -- were .. you know.. UNIQUE!). But, just check the dreamcast talk msg board man... there are still people playing the Dreamcast ONLINE (!). Insane.

 

If you have the money, I highly reccomend just picking up one of these babies. You WON'T be sorry.

 

[atsonicpark]

BTW, guys, if you go to btjunkie.org, type in dreamcast, there are 4 or 5 torrents called "dreamcast [EVERY US GAME!]" and they're separated into, like, A-E and shit. I highly reccomend those torrents, they're well seeded and shit and dcisozone only lets you download 1 file at a time. Though most of the best DC games came out in Japan, and you'll want to get those later, you can hurry up and just get all the US games really quickly.. MDK2, Crazy Taxi 2, Soul Calibur, and so on and so on and so on, in a few hours.

BTW, I LOVE the VMU's, the little memory cards, I got a brand new one from amazon.com for $5. Some of the games have VMU games attached to them. In D2, the VMU operates as a compass. In Sonic Adventure, there's a separate Tamagotchi-ish "pet raising simulator" for the VMU.

I forgot to mention.. In D2, there are RPG elements and "hunting" elements. Every time you kill an enemy, you get experience points, which raises your level. This is awesome. The enemies don't drop items, so it's nice that there's a reward for killing them. I've never seen an action game where you get experinece points like that (the Castlevanias that are like Metroid kinda do, though, I guess, if that counts).

OH YEAH -- THERE IS A GLOSSARY ARCHIVE IN THE GAME! So, anything you interact with in some way, there's a neat little description of it in the game!!! This is really cool. In case you didn't understand part of the story, it's in this thing. Also, there's some kinda minor stuff, like the definition/history of pianos and dinosaurs, but it's really really interesting.

Speaking of pianos, there's this dude who plays Mozart for you. You hear a melody at one point and you have to sit at the piano and play the next 5 notes correctly to open a door. Haha. There aren't that many puzzles, really, there are just moments when you need to take a picture of some numbers (the game comes with a camera which saves pictures to the VMU... yeah, Metal Gear Solid 2 did that a few years later.. I have a feeling this game REALLY inspired Killer7 dude, and Hideo Kojima, and the Resident Evil 4 dude) -- or write 'em down.

Anyway, the hunting part... you get a rifle you can zoom in and out.. you get to kill rabbits and moose and birds and cook em (this is done instantly, you kill em and they immediately are "cooked" as meat)... this is surprisingly really addictive, I found myself killing moose for hours. You get medals and different ranks depending on how good you are at killing. Also ,you have unlimited ammo in your rifle and both of your main uzi-type weapons (the bigger weapons have limited ammo, but they're extremely powerful).

Really, the game is just SO ... unobtrusive, I guess.. like, there isn't all these menus and submenus and energy bars getting in the way, you only see that stuff when you press a button.. the game moves REALLY fast, and it's pretty clear where to go, though I've read reviews where people are confused for some reason... the game moves REALLY fast. It's only about 10 hours long, and there are quite a few cinemas, but the storyline is the most interesting one I've ever encountered in a video game...

There is a character who talks about her mom killing herself.. and she turns to drugs (it shows her doing drugs in the game)... she also writes poetry and she plays a song she wrote on a tape.. the tape fucks up and starts playing really really slow, about halfway through the listening session.. again, Metal Gear Solid had some of this banter, and I guess Silent Hill had some more "serious" discussions and stuff.. but there are still some pretty insane things in this game I've never encountered in a mainstream video game before.

THis game is 10 years old and still ahead of its time. Check it out, it will be a game EXPERIENCE you will never forget.

[EVOLghost]

sounds pretty awesome dood.

[SpaceCadetHayden]

You've convinced me. I'm getting myself a DreamCast for christmas.

[noisereductions]

Originally Posted by EVOLghost

watchu pay fer it?

I got it for $40 at Gamestop.

[kinn]

so get a dreamcast and get all those emualtors for it - do the emulators stay on the machine itself or do you need cdrs for them?

after you've got all that, what to buy then? a modded ps2 for your ps1 and ps2 games. what about n64 stuff without having to buy all the cartridges? any other way apart from having it as an emu on your pc?

basically im asking what you would do to get pretty much every game worth getting. like whats the optimum kit you would need.