[Pookie]

Originally Posted by Nefeli

i slept 4 hours and the first part of the sleep was one of the most bizarre 'sort of sleeping paralysis' that i get.

Sleep paralysis is a weird thing. I used to get it quite a lot. I would always see a white figure coming into my bedroom, walking around my bed and getting into bed next to me, but I couldn't move and so knew it was in bed behind me.

A lot of things can be explained by the hallucinations that go with sleep paralysis: angels, ghosts, aliens...

My son used to get night terrors, a similar thing and very scary to watch...

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by Pookie

A lot of things can be explained by the hallucinations that go with sleep paralysis: angels, ghosts, aliens...

What if you have your explanation entirely backwards? I've always thought it a bit dangerous to doubt the reality of human terrors and ecstasies as if to be somehow negated by neurochemistry. Its a chicken and egg question, are the visions induced by the neurochemistry or is the chemistry induced by the visions.

 

[SonikJesus]

Originally Posted by Pookie

Sleep paralysis is a weird thing. I used to get it quite a lot. I would always see a white figure coming into my bedroom, walking around my bed and getting into bed next to me, but I couldn't move and so knew it was in bed behind me.

A lot of things can be explained by the hallucinations that go with sleep paralysis: angels, ghosts, aliens...

My son used to get night terrors, a similar thing and very scary to watch...

The only time I got one of these I was laying there with my eyes open trying to go to sleep. It was dark. Then I see a figure of a woman in a dress at the door of my room. Next thing I remember she was next to my bed. Next thing I remember is she was on top of me saying some demonic sounding shit in a deep scaryass voice. I could only see here eyes. They looked human but had a scaryass look if you know what I mean. Tried calling my roomates name but only a whisper came out. I finally just looked the bitch in the face and told her (whispered) "yr not real" twice. Then she was gone. Left me laying there for a good few minutes wondering what the fuck that was; terrified like never before.

I later found out it was called old hag syndrome and has been reported by people since centuries past. I'm still not convinced it was all in my head cause why do all these people report the same thing? Probably some demon. Bitch was scary as fuck. Fuck her.

[Rob Instigator]

humans have archetypes in our collective unconscious. These are images we all share as part of our human heritage.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Nefeli

being sick with high fever sucks big time
i dont do high fever, it is not my system's thing.
i go up to 38C, feel like a wreck and get all the other stuff that last more than 2 weeks. but this time i did and it was horrible. at some points, i was thinking i can understand how people were dying from it. i mean, i had that feel.

but thats not what it is about.
last night the fever wore off, but i couldnt sleep.
i slept 4 hours and the first part of the sleep was one of the most bizarre 'sort of sleeping paralysis' that i get.

that's just your body rejecting the upcoming "job" from hell!

i hope you're still looking around and manage to dodge that bullet!

[h8kurdt]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

humans have archetypes in our collective unconscious. These are images we all share as part of our human heritage.

Hippy.

[Rob Instigator]

If Jung was a hippy, was Freud a Beat?

[h8kurdt]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

If Jung was a hippy, was Freud a Beat?

No he was a hipster.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by SonikJesus

I later found out it was called old hag syndrome and has been reported by people since centuries past. I'm still not convinced it was all in my head cause why do all these people report the same thing? Probably some demon. Bitch was scary as fuck. Fuck her.

 

Carl Jung calls these figures archetypes. Our subconscious mind shares many collective experiences, sights, sounds, smells, and especially figures. This is why our religious and mythic experiences have a commonality, they draw actively from the same source, the human subconscious. In our dreams, visions, nightmares, apparitions, and hallucinations our mind uses this seemingly hard-wired mental imagery to create a narrative and bridge to explain our thoughts and feelings. However, neither Jung or Joseph Campbell took this to say that the substance of religious experiences, visions, or terrors are entirely fabricated by the mind as a means to make sense of itself. Jung believed that the psychic archetypes naturally had to have an actualized counterpart in reality separate from the internal workings of the mind.

Myself, I feel that in a spiritual world, where non-material entities can interact with our immaterial selves, our material brain uses these archetypes to translate the experience into our consciousness, similar to how I feel about dreams. Its not that they're not real, its that they are not real in the sense that we experience them. The visions are like smoke or incense giving substance to the invisible force of wind..

[Genteel Death]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to h8kurdt again.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

 

Now what kind of Jungian would I be without blabbering on incoherently on a free-associative ramble?

[SonikJesus]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

 

Carl Jung calls these figures archetypes. Our subconscious mind shares many collective experiences, sights, sounds, smells, and especially figures. This is why our religious and mythic experiences have a commonality, they draw actively from the same source, the human subconscious. In our dreams, visions, nightmares, apparitions, and hallucinations our mind uses this seemingly hard-wired mental imagery to create a narrative and bridge to explain our thoughts and feelings. However, neither Jung or Joseph Campbell took this to say that the substance of religious experiences, visions, or terrors are entirely fabricated by the mind as a means to make sense of itself. Jung believed that the psychic archetypes naturally had to have an actualized counterpart in reality separate from the internal workings of the mind.

Myself, I feel that in a spiritual world, where non-material entities can interact with our immaterial selves, our material brain uses these archetypes to translate the experience into our consciousness, similar to how I feel about dreams. Its not that they're not real, its that they are not real in the sense that we experience them. The visions are like smoke or incense giving substance to the invisible force of wind..

Funny I was thinking about something like that after I made the post. I was thinking about the other possibility of it coming from our mind and basically supporting my belief that we all come from one consciousness which is why we experience a lot of the same shit mentally.

[Nefeli]

tried to reply the other day, but my pc failed me. eitherway, i was in a lalalala mood dont wanna talk about it more/now, because it was near bed time.


a general conclusion once again, is that you have to talk about things to people. took me years after the 1st time to start feeling comfortable to tell people and since then, as it happened here, i see that other people have the same experience.

i just have posted about this before, but anyway..1st time was when i was 21, 2nd when i was 24, then around my 30s and since then few times, but yeah last years more times all together.

its of the things that i dont want to overtalk (dont mean i dont want to talk about it here), i just mentioned it to my mother when it happens (she used to have them as well), or do more search about, in fear i will cause it to happen again.

stress, booze, lack of sleep
are things that are in my life and i mostly 'blame' stress.

the worst for me is not the experience, although its horrible, but the fear to go back to sleep.

!@#$%! argh...............

[EVOLghost]

I actually had a dream last night. Nothing crazy happened or anything....everything felt normal. It felt like a regular day and absolutely nothing out of the ordinary...and that shit had me smiling in the morning for no reason.

[Genteel Death]

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Scandinavian modern style furniture and accessories in amateur pornography (nsfw)

http://justanotherikeacatalog.tumblr.com/

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Genteel Death

justanotherikeacatalog

Scandinavian modern style furniture and accessories in amateur pornography (nsfw)

http://justanotherikeacatalog.tumblr.com/

this is hilarious. the best part somehow is being able to click on the link and see the actual item in the ikea catalog.

someone has that stuff memorized.

[Nefeli]

I LOVE HOW THE WIND BRINGS IN DRY LEAVES AND I LET THEM BE ON THE FLOOR.
i am the worst plantkeeper you can imagine.

[pony]

greetings, loved ones

[EVOLghost]

 

[Bytor Peltor]

0555 AM and the wife and I are headed out for a two mile walk : )