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Old 03.04.2020, 09:55 AM   #341
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Old 03.04.2020, 09:55 AM   #342
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Look at Biden as the Juan Carlos transition from Generalissimo Francisco Trimp.
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Old 03.04.2020, 09:58 AM   #343
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Look at Biden as the Juan Carlos transition from Generalissimo Francisco Trimp.
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great historical reference there
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Old 03.04.2020, 10:37 AM   #344
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re: warren surrogates, i don’t see castro going to bernie, though maybe it could happen
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Old 03.04.2020, 10:38 AM   #345
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oh! bloomie just endorsed biden

originally came here to post this link of castro talking about warren’s moderate appeal

https://www.msnbc.com/hallie-jackson...ie-79886917859
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Old 03.04.2020, 10:41 AM   #346
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TRUMP Tweet Beat You To It


Wow! If Elizabeth Warren wasn’t in the race, Bernie Sanders would have EASILY won Massachusetts, Minnesota and Texas, not to mention various other states. Our modern day Pocahontas won’t go down in history as a winner, but she may very well go down as the all time great SPOILER!
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Old 03.04.2020, 10:48 AM   #347
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concern trolling from psychopathic bastards and his meme-brained acolytes

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Saying voter suppression is a secret method to deny Sanders the nom is one of the stupidest fucking things I’ve read in some time. Keep digging into wherever in the hell you're getting that stuff from, it is Onion worthy
You're clueless about how power works you bootlicking moron. It's the oldest trick in the book.

7 hour wait times in places with heavy Sanders support, seems totally normal. Go suck some establishment dick some more and I'll see you in November when Trump beats Biden and you're all whining about it like I haven't been telling you this whole time.
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Old 03.04.2020, 11:19 AM   #349
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Libs downplay the very serious sleight of hand role of voter suppression in Western politics and then scream to the heavens that every other consequence is due to RUSSIA!! Mindless goo for brains, I swear ta god.
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Old 03.04.2020, 11:30 AM   #350
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Libs downplay the very serious sleight of hand role of voter suppression in Western politics and then scream to the heavens that every other consequence is due to RUSSIA!! Mindless goo for brains, I swear ta god.
what i've been reading to follow up on what you mentioned is that TEXAS has closed 750 polling places since 2012, mostly located, yes, in minority and low income areas.

that's TEXAS, which is a state run by republicans, not the democratic party.

and echo park isn't exactly a proletarian enclave


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clueless bootlicking moron Go suck some establishment dick s like I haven't been telling you this whole time.

this berniebro attitude here is *exactly* why many moderates are wary of embracing bernie and probably one reason warren turned away from him and decried the behavior of his supporters more than once. and also one reason many eventual warren ship-jumpers won't join the bernie flotilla.
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Old 03.04.2020, 11:56 AM   #351
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Oh shut up with that shite, fed up of you repeating it whenever I stray from CiViLiTy and DeCeNcY. ilduclo can say stupid shit all day but I'm the problem as soon as I respond. He's a moron, plain and simple. He has zero understanding of how politics works and it's transparent. I disagree with you constantly and I don't think you're a moron. Telling it how I see it.

Also that stuff about Warren is total bullshit. She attacks his supporters cause she can't attack his policies. She wants his spot (or at least, she did). And if Warren supporters want M4A and all that stuff but won't vote for a progressive cuz BERNIE BROS then they're morons too and were never really entrenched in their beliefs in the first place. Stop your condescending nonsense, tut tutting people won't do shit.

If the attitude of this board in any way represents the American consensus like keeps getting suggested to me then Trump is going to win again cause some of you just DON'T GET IT. #MAGA2020 and all that. Every establishment politician and media empire was wrong in 2016, I can tell you they are wrong this time too. Free of charge.
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Old 03.04.2020, 11:59 AM   #352
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Thank god Biden has brought some decency and civility back to the White House while he continues to drone strike the Middle East and blow up innocent women and children. Fuck off.
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im just telling you what i see every day.

the overly aggro "my way or the highway" bernie supporter attitude has been used against bernie since the start of his campaign. since before, even.

when you react like that it just feeds the narrative and the stereotype.

and article i read this morning labeled his supporters "the revolutionary guard". and right or wrong, that just drives people away from him.
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Old 03.04.2020, 12:07 PM   #354
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re: warren surrogates, i don’t see castro going to bernie, though maybe it could happen

 


Speaking of, we had an editorial cartoon the other day about Bernie lovin Fidel...
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Old 03.04.2020, 12:08 PM   #355
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lol you know i meant julián.
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"Bernie loving Fidel" and I'm getting told off for telling this idiot that he's an idiot? Clearly your brain turns to useless mush when you listen to too many MSNBC talking heads.
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some results, final or close to final:

alabammy 99% count
Candidate Votes Pct. Del.
Joe Biden 286,067 63.2 % 24
Bernie Sanders 74,867 16.6 3
Michael Bloomberg 52,750 11.7 0
Elizabeth Warren 25,847 5.7 0
Michael Bennet 2,250 0.5 0

minnehaha 99%
Joe Biden 287,548 38.6 % 20
Bernie Sanders 222,616 29.9 11
Elizabeth Warren 114,787 15.4 0
Michael Bloomberg 62,138 8.3 0
Amy Klobuchar 41,752 5.6 0
Pete Buttigieg 7,666 1.0 0

n.c. 100% count
Candidate Votes Pct. Del.
Joe Biden 568,578 43.0 % 35
Bernie Sanders 318,772 24.1 15
Michael Bloomberg 171,734 13.0 0
Elizabeth Warren 138,502 10.5 0
Pete Buttigieg 43,368 3.3 0
Amy Klobuchar 30,641 2.3 0
Tom Steyer 10,715 0.8 0

tennessee 100%
Candidate Votes Pct. Del.
Joe Biden 215,005 41.7 % 21
Bernie Sanders 128,508 24.9 10
Michael Bloomberg 79,637 15.5 0
Elizabeth Warren 53,545 10.4 0
Pete Buttigieg 17,051 3.3 0
Amy Klobuchar 10,644 2.1 0

Texas 99.5% count
Candidate Votes Pct. Del.
Biden 707,476 33.7 % 20
Sanders 627,860 29.9 20
Bloomberg 312,825 14.9 0
Warren 237,669 11.3 0
Buttigieg 84,766 4.0 0

vermont 100%
Candidate Votes Pct. Del.
Bernie Sanders 79,915 50.7 % 8
Joe Biden 34,663 22.0 4
Elizabeth Warren 19,787 12.6 0
Michael Bloomberg 14,822 9.4 0
Pete Buttigieg 3,709 2.4 0

virginia 100%
Candidate Votes Pct. Del.
Joe Biden 705,339 53.3 % 49
Bernie Sanders 306,072 23.1 19
Elizabeth Warren 142,559 10.8 1
Michael Bloomberg 127,782 9.7 0

keep an eye on the delegate counts
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since warren basically got no delegates she sent an email to staffers about taking time to consider her future

that means she’ll drop out

interesting to see what will follow




and moscow mitch will redouble biden “investigations” of course



stats showing the under-30 crowd not showing up to vote

older millennials (30+) going against bernie.
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lol you know i meant julián.

of course. He's my choice for veep (I hope Joe agrees). Ms Ild thinks he's just as cute as can be, he's a red diaper baby from TX so he's been thoroughly investigated by Repubs there.
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3) Voter suppression in Texas and California in mostly poor communities. People waiting in line to vote for 7 hours. Disgusting. They really fucking don't want Bernie as the nominee.

This equation of Bernie-support with poverty doesn't add up for me. My work has recently lead to me spending more time in the US - specifically Miami and Atlanta. Those who are most overtly pro-Bernie that I've encountered (mainly people I work with) are overwhelmingly quite comfortably off, while the sense I get from those far lower down the scale is that they fucking LOVE Biden - when they'e not simply Trump supporters. In Atlanta anyway. Miami is its own political ecosystem. Either way, look at the states that Bernie was predicted to do well in. They're relatively wealthy.
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