[evollove]

"Happened years ago. He is a new man. Forgiveness is Christlike. Let he who is without sin...etc."

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It was easy to "resist" when T's administration started. Remember when we all thought he'd be gone the next day? The next week? Okay, next month. Okay, but he'll never make it past 2017...

It wears one down. Defeat and resignation set in.

But I'm still convinced 2018 will be a turning point. Or a returning point.

"Oh, we can actually vote this year!"

33 senate races
39 gubernatorial races
435 congressional races!!!!!!

And don't believe anyone who tells you how any of these will turn out in November.

[Skuj]

I've been reading parts of this thread. It's like other Trump threads on other music forums - mostly antiTrump, but a few Trumpists (eg tesla69? I think?), and we spend plenty of time standing across from each other shouting and giving the middle finger. But there's some good debate too. If we can reach for what we have in common I think that is noble.

I think tesla is very happy that the tax cuts give him more of his money. Understandable. How much more are the millionaires getting? Is that fair? Is the debt at 22T now?

Big news today seems to be meeting with KimJongUn. I don't know if this is good news or bad news.

[!@#$%!]

get your tax cut today, watch the country’s infrastructure and social safety net crumble tomorrow

see: kansas

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lol the meeting of the egomaniacs

[Skuj]

Seriously, doesn't an actual face to face give Kim legitimacy that he craves? Does anyone seriously think they will halt the nuke program for any reason? They are dangling that to get Trump to the table, surely? Where the fuck is Tillerson on all this?

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Skuj

Seriously, doesn't an actual face to face give Kim legitimacy that he craves? Does anyone seriously think they will halt the nuke program for any reason? They are dangling that to get Trump to the table, surely? Where the fuck is Tillerson on all this?

he’s a carnival barker and a huckster and i don’t trust him one iota

this does have every appearance of a diplomatic coup though. sure thing. the dealmaker, whatever. it’s how he operates. grandiose gestures and gilded furniture and all eyes on him.

ask me again after they meet (or not). he might have forgotten about this by may, and have us looking at another distraction.

this guys is a serial bankrupt. great announcements, terrible finishes, stiffs everyone and comes up smelling of roses.

we’ll see. you gotta look past the bamboozling.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by evollove

"Happened years ago. He is a new man. Forgiveness is Christlike. Let he who is without sin...etc."

---

It was easy to "resist" when T's administration started. Remember when we all thought he'd be gone the next day? The next week? Okay, next month. Okay, but he'll never make it past 2017...

It wears one down. Defeat and resignation set in.

But I'm still convinced 2018 will be a turning point. Or a returning point.

"Oh, we can actually vote this year!"

33 senate races
39 gubernatorial races
435 congressional races!!!!!!

And don't believe anyone who tells you how any of these will turn out in November.

well put, all of that

[ilduclo]

The nukes in Korea (many fine nukes, on BOTH sides) are one thing. There is also way too much "conventional" weaponry (not weapons from a business gathering or from a house filled with nuns). If any rapport could reduce the amount of ARTILLERY alone, it would be great. After 70 years, there isn't a lot of reason to have massive amounts of arms and soldiers on this line.

Things have come to a pretty pass,
Our romance is growing flat,
For you like this and the other
While I go for this and that.
Goodness knows what the end will be;
Oh, I don't know where I'm at...
It looks as if we two will never be one,
Something must be done.
You say eether and I say eyether,
You say neether and I say nyther;
Eether, eyether, neether, nyther,
Let's call the whole thing off!

we need this diplomacy!

 

[The Soup Nazi]

 

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lol they didn’t send “you” that. it’s a fucking mail merge.

basically you sent it to yourself when you gave them your address

anyway, every lobby has its talking points... im not a fortune teller so we’ll see what happens with this eventually

[LovelyJubbly]

Originally Posted by Robert Schunk

We're in very much of an economic and social emergency right now, so some environmental safeguards may need to be sidelined for a time.

Would you care to expand upon this claim and please preface it by explaining where you get your news?

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by LovelyJubbly

Would you care to expand upon this claim and please preface it by explaining where you get your news?

the bottom of a bottle

[ilduclo]

self driving tesla in the ditch with a shunk in the trunk!

 

you may as well say, that "due to the unprecedented state of war, all Geneva Convention rules are suspended" --Oh, wait, Shrub already said that

[h8kurdt]

Blah blah blah blah

[h8kurdt]

Originally Posted by Robert Schunk

You're new to this board, so you might want to go back and read about a year of my earlier posts.

Here's a new one to start you off:

Extreme poverty returns to America


A new generation of anti-gentrification radicals are on the march in Los Angeles – and around the country


From Coal Miners to Teachers: West Virginia Continues to Lead Radical Labor Struggle in the U.S.



In the last article, please note the following passage:



"I wanted to read the tweet of the acclaimed author Barbara Ehrenreich,
who wrote, “A lot of children depend on free school lunches, so the
West Virginia teachers made food packages for them before going on
strike and have continued to try to feed them. This is our dystopian
welfare state: severely underpaid teachers trying to keep
poverty-stricken kids alive.” ".

You think Trump gives a fuck about those people?

[Rob Instigator]

he dont even give a fuck about his wives and kids....

[!@#$%!]

 

[Skuj]

The thing that amazes me most about Trump's "base" (apart from the complete ignorance they show on many / most real issues) is that they actually think that Trump gives a fuck about them, beyond reasons of political convenience.

[The Soup Nazi]

Well isn't this convenient.

House Republicans break with intelligence community on Russia

More: https://news.google.com/news/story/d...us&hl=en&gl=US

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Skuj

The thing that amazes me most about Trump's "base" (apart from the complete ignorance they show on many / most real issues) is that they actually think that Trump gives a fuck about them, beyond reasons of political convenience.

some people never learn

 

[h8kurdt]

And that's Rex Tillerson gone now. Classic Trump. This quote "We got along actually quite well, but we disagreed on things," said the president.' is pretty telling. He should look to Lincoln's infamous team of rivals and realise you shouldn't be surrounding yourself with yes men who bow to every ridiculous idea you pull out of your ass.