[evollove]

Campbell's Masks of God series changed me profoundly.

[Rob Instigator]

I am halfway through Oriental Mythology. I tried reading these books in my 20's but I did not have the necessary background to digest what he is discussing. Now, at age 41, I can read them and am able to grasp it all. some books require preparation!

[evollove]

Yeah, I read them when I was 20 or so, and I looked at them recently and wondered how the hell I pulled that off. No way I understood very much, but the big theme is clear enough, isn't it? Stories repeat. A simple idea that Campbell spent the rest of his life unpacking, so I guess it's also a very complex idea.

But mostly it was being shown the difference between the occidental and oriental approach to the big questions which made me rethink everything. That was brand new to me. It's not like a grew up around a lot of Buddhists.

[schizophrenicroom]

i re-read the secret history by donna tartt the other day, then il purgatorio

[lucyrulesok]

Originally Posted by schizophrenicroom

i re-read the secret history by donna tartt the other day

good choice! have you read the goldfinch? i really liked it when i read it (about a year ago - close to when it came out) but now I'm not so sure.

[lucyrulesok]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

Hesse I always found boring. I read fiction to be shown a world that I never experienced before. Hesse's fiction is like a boring lecture that you need to sit through because the information is quality, but the person delivering it is a monotone bore.

haha maybe some of his longer works. i quite like this in an author though , i find it kinda soothing. i think by the sounds of it we look through different things from fiction...?!

but have you read his shorter works? Siddartha? Klingsor's Last Summer? Rosshalde?

[lucyrulesok]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

now i think i might just end up reading burckhardt first ha ha ha ha

i am intrigued now too - let me know how you find it!

[lucyrulesok]

Originally Posted by evollove

Campbell's Masks of God series changed me profoundly.

i really want to read these

[lucyrulesok]

such spam

[_slavo_]

I am now currently reading Second Foundation by Isaac Asimov.

That's like the heaven for Sci-Fi fans (along P.K.Dick, of course)

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by lucyrulesok

i am intrigued now too - let me know how you find it!

this kind of book would have been difficult for me to read before the existence of wikipedia. it assumes you know who is everyone mentioned there and it goes on to make overarching judgments and interpretations-- looks at trends, really. very nice really as a kind of global view of the renaissance.

i started the other day & left for wikipedia to read about the hohenstaufens, ezzelino, frederick I, etc. (i know about some of them vaguely but never made any study of them). this is fun but a massive distraction because i get lost in the web of information, but if i remember to return to the book then everything looks clear. so my linear progress has been slow but with the accessory expeditions one gets to cover a lot.

[Rob Instigator]

Originally Posted by lucyrulesok

haha maybe some of his longer works. i quite like this in an author though , i find it kinda soothing. i think by the sounds of it we look through different things from fiction...?!

but have you read his shorter works? Siddartha? Klingsor's Last Summer? Rosshalde?

I read Siddartha in my 20's, and it left no impression I can recall.

I will have to give his shorter works another go

I am reading The Demolished Man by Alfred Bester. Great sci fi from the early 50's. I had never heard of him except for a Simpsons episode where Martin the smart nerdy kid, says that the ABC's of science fiction are Asimov, Bester, and Clarke, and some kid says "what about Ray Bradbury?" and Martin replies, "I am familiar with his work..." That shit makes me laugh. Ray Bradbury is suck. I find him more boring that Hesse.

Sooooo, this Demolished Man book is amazing so far.

 

[schizophrenicroom]

Originally Posted by lucyrulesok

good choice! have you read the goldfinch? i really liked it when i read it (about a year ago - close to when it came out) but now I'm not so sure.

I devoured it at first and now I wish it had a better editor. I think the Vegas part kinda drags.

[lucyrulesok]

Originally Posted by schizophrenicroom

I devoured it at first and now I wish it had a better editor. I think the Vegas part kinda drags.

yah - i think i wanted to like it more than i actually liked it.

a few people have said that to me about the vegas part but that was my favourite part.

(see previous comments about liking boring novels haha)

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by schizophrenicroom

now I wish it had a better editor

a lot of books (most of them actually) are rushed for publication these days

Originally Posted by lucyrulesok

(see previous comments about liking boring novels haha)

XIX century FTW

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been reading a little more of the burckhardt reinaissance book and it's highly entertaining but somehow feels like a pointless exercise. eta: meaning i enjoy it, but i need other knowledge right now.

i'm more interested in buying this book. in fact i have for the longest time:

 

THE ART OF FERMENTATION by sandor katz (but fuck michael pollan)

i make yogurt and sauerkraut as daily staples but i need to up my game. kimchi, you are next. pickles too.

also, i wanna learn to cure meats-- but that's a different book.

eta, again. this is what i'm actually reading right now along w/ burckhardt:

 

BARNYARD IN YOUR BACKYARD

good stuff! furrealz.

[schizophrenicroom]

Originally Posted by lucyrulesok

yah - i think i wanted to like it more than i actually liked it.

a few people have said that to me about the vegas part but that was my favourite part.

(see previous comments about liking boring novels haha)

donna tartt has a really interesting interview on some site about her use of male protagonists; if i find it again i'll post it here

GIMME ALL THE KIMCHI. damnit !@#$%!, you made me hungry.

i'm also reading marcus aurelius's meditations, and waiting for "the last thing he wanted" by didion to ship to my parents' house

[A Thousand Threads]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

a lot of books (most of them actually) are rushed for publication these days




sauerkraut

what amount are you talking about? roommates would kill me.
kimchi I'm developing myself. getting better at it. still not quite there yet.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by schizophrenicroom

GIMME ALL THE KIMCHI. damnit !@#$%!, you made me hungry.

kimchi and grilled elk!!! so good.

Originally Posted by A Thousand Threads

what amount are you talking about? roommates would kill me.
kimchi I'm developing myself. getting better at it. still not quite there yet.

kimchi is tough for me because of the innumerable ingredients, especially the hard-to find korean pepper flakes.

sauerkraut is the *easiest* thing. i make a gallon (you can make less). i make it like this:

1) i shred a couple of cabbages (you can use knife or food processor or mandoline or whatever)

2) add 2 fat teaspoons of COARSE sea salt and proceed to smash it with my hands so it releases juice

3) i put it in a 1 gallon (4 litres) mason jar-- the name of this type of jar is american but mine are made i think in italy (has a rubber ring to seal). <-- you can start with 1 cabbage and 2 litres, or a smaller one and reuse some glass jar from something else. --> adjust salt to about 1 tablespoon per kilo.

4) i add a weight on top of the cabbage so it sinks in the juice (e.g. a glass jar w/ rocks). i use a cabbage leaf as a "lid" to hold the shredded cabbage down as liquid rises.

5) i cover the open jar with a kitchen towel. leave it in a cool room and the next day i'm starting to see bubbles. keep it that way for about 10 days.

6) after a week or 10 days i put it in the fridge and start eating it. at this point you start to taste but it's still too

7) you can start eating it then. lasts indefinitely i think. captain cook sailed around the world with a ship full of sauerkraut and nobody got scurvy.

note: i've read that normally one wouldn't need to add water to the mix, but i live in a desert and evaporation happens. so i add filter, boiled &cooled water to the jar. that way it stays submerged instead of dried up. water is filtered to remove chlorine-- if your water supply doesn't have it then it's not an issue.

trust me it's super easy. and kimchi stinks waaaaaay more with the fish sauce and scallions and all the ultra-funky stuff.

i got 2 bok choys on sale today i'll try starting that as kraut not kimchi.

also you can mix red/green cabbage, add some shredded carrot, maybe caraway seeds (i'm not crazy about those but some people use them).

[Rob Instigator]

fresh Polish saurkraut smells like goddamn barf bile

[floatingslowly]

I'm secretly jealous of !#@$!$!'s self-sufficient rugged-outdoorsman lifestyle, but yeah, all I can think about is the smell.

fuck, I can hardly eat chicken without clearing a room, I can only imagine what it'd be like if I tried to ferment it.