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Old 02.11.2015, 01:18 AM   #3801
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So even though their both Swiss, at times were contemporaries and have very similar explanations for child cognitive development i cant find a single reference that suggests Piaget was influenced by Jung or that they even knew of each other or each other's work. It just seem weird that they wouldn't
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Old 02.11.2015, 03:20 PM   #3802
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So even though their both Swiss, at times were contemporaries and have very similar explanations for child cognitive development i cant find a single reference that suggests Piaget was influenced by Jung or that they even knew of each other or each other's work. It just seem weird that they wouldn't


google is your friend

piaget studied with jung

https://www.google.com/search?client...UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
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Old 02.11.2015, 04:35 PM   #3803
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Don't think I ever read something by this guy, but the plot sounds interesting. After they won WWII, Japan rules over California and the Germans over New York


I love this book, and many by Dick.
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Old 02.11.2015, 04:44 PM   #3804
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Science and Sanity: An Introduction to Non-Aristotelian Systems and General Semantics by Alfred Korzybski. As a huge Robert Anton Wilson fan, this is where he got his ideas about neurolinguistic programming and guerilla ontology. Korzybski started the Institute of General Semantics and pfromoted the change in humanity from Aristotelian thought to non-aristotelian though.
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Old 02.12.2015, 12:53 PM   #3805
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Old 02.13.2015, 06:15 AM   #3806
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Old 02.13.2015, 10:00 AM   #3807
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google is your friend

piaget studied with jung

https://www.google.com/search?client...UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
I googled every possible combo and found nothing connecting the two.. i see Google liked you better, thanks for sharing
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It's the story of America told from a realist, truthful perspective. Not all that bs that you learned about in elementary school.
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Old 02.17.2015, 03:39 PM   #3809
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It's the story of America told from a realist, truthful perspective. Not all that bs that you learned about in elementary school.
In California this is part of the curriculum in 11th grade US History.. really EVERY American needs to read it, TWICE.

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And wondering how i never discovered this magical realism gem!
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Old 02.17.2015, 04:44 PM   #3810
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i love bless me ultima! such gorgeous imagery in there.

i read part of a book from duke u press the other day that theorizes horror movies are really some kind of critique of capitalist culture
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Old 02.17.2015, 04:55 PM   #3811
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i love bless me ultima! such gorgeous imagery in there.

i read part of a book from duke u press the other day that theorizes horror movies are really some kind of critique of capitalist culture

zombie movies are. mindless consumption, herd mentality, etc. George Romero had an entire zombie film in a suburban mall

vampire films are about sex, the fear of it, rape, seduction, etc.

the horror of the 50's was about the threat of godless communists (Body Snatchers for example) or about the proliferation of nuclear weapons (the radiation monster movies, godzilla, Them, etc.)
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Old 02.18.2015, 07:03 AM   #3812
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In the mountains, the shortest way is from peak to peak: but for that, you need long legs
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i have hope after reading it but Nietzsche went insane in his last days. i hope all that meant was that he was before his time and his philosophy actually does work. i like how they all get drunk at the end.

we don't know why nietzsche went mad. some people speculated syphillis in his day. we think now maybe it was not madness but a stroke (he had several). to say that his thoughts caused madness sounds very poetic but is such a stretch. nietzsche's thought is in fact very healing for people tormented by ghost cults. his philosophy does work.

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In the mountains, the shortest way is from peak to peak: but for that, you need long legs

i'm an oaf and i could never enjoy zarathustra. my favorite of his books, the one that split my skull open for good, was "beyond good and evil." for that book i owe him my life.
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Old 02.18.2015, 11:26 AM   #3814
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I dismissed Nietzsche for the longest time but just reread Twilight of the Idols and really really liked it. It's like you read him as a very young man and think he's great, then mature a bit and think he's silly, then mature a bit more and think he's actually a lot better than you thought even when you first read him. Or at least that's how it seems to have gone for me.
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Old 02.18.2015, 01:45 PM   #3815
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^ Ha! That certainly rings true for me. I'm probably still in the "silly" camp, but not as much as I used to be. It bothers me that practically everyone, no matter what they already believe, can find some Nietzsche to back them up. He said just about everything at one point or another.

But my main complaint is that he doesn't really have a cohesive philosophy, but I'm starting to think that maybe that isn't such a bad thing. Reality is so nebulous that a concrete "this is the way things are" sort of philosophy is perhaps the weaker one.

One of the few philosophers who gave a shit about writing a decent sentence, so props for that.
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Old 02.19.2015, 02:27 AM   #3816
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I suppose events make philosophers appear either more or less relevant, and things have obviously gotten really bad when a philosopher like Nietzsche suddenly starts to appear quite insightful. But you're right, he doesn't offer a viable world-view.
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Old 02.19.2015, 09:10 AM   #3817
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philosophy is not about finding a viable world-view. it is about dissecting meaning, reality, and consciousness
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But you're right, he doesn't offer a viable world-view.

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philosophy is not about finding a viable world-view. it is about dissecting meaning, reality, and consciousness

i was about to say (i'll say it anyway), thank fuck nietzsche wasn't a theologian in disguise, pretending to know the meaning of the universe, the place of the stars and the mechanics of the afterlife, like so many "philosophers" before him-- plato, kant, hegel, etc.

the man stuck to his subject, which was essentially that of human psychology and morality. and he did a kickass job of it.

he wasn't trying to solve every problem nor have a prescription for everything. beyond good an evil is, in fact, a call to future philosophers to create new values-- he didn't claim to have them ready-made.
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Arthur Machen, The Great God Pan

British precursor to Lovecraft and the whole 'weird' genre. Anyone who likes Call of Cthulhu will love this.

fucking excellent thanks
Just finished The Great God Pan, by Machen. great great great

Thanks for the recommendation

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Great isn't it! Truly Disturbing. And a great review. Love your blog.

You mention wanting to read his other stuff. You should give The White People a go.

Incidentally, my avatar is of occult artist Austin Osman Spare, who illustrated an edition GGP that I have. Here's some samples from that edition:

 


Penguin recently published a collection of his short stories which for some reason doesn't include The Great God Pan.

 
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