[pantophobia]

Originally Posted by SonjaK

well, actually thurston told us everything even before the breakup: if you listen again (and carefully) to demolished thoughts it will appear evident. i realised this in november 2011... i wrote something on an italian forum at that time: i'd like to share, but i'd need a lot of time and effort for a good translation... if you want i can try...

not only that, take another look at The Eternal and for that matter Rather Ripped, some interesting lyrics to look at in hindsight

[zelocia]

Originally Posted by pantophobia

not only that, take another look at The Eternal and for that matter Rather Ripped, some interesting lyrics to look at in hindsight

"Sleepin around, sleepin around
What will the neighbors say
Sleepin around all over town
What will the neighbors say

What you did was wrong
What did you good is gone
Nothing you do is right
Always ends up in a fight"

The most obvious example but what else?

[hirsute_biped]

Originally Posted by scott v

True but its not our business to know unless they make it known. However its becoming more plainly obvious now from these Thurston sightings and now this comment by Kim in that interview... it is now implying the obvious of the situation.

I can't deny that this is probably subconsciously influencing my recent disinterest in Thurston's music, not even excited about Chelsea Light Moving. That and I'm getting into tons of other unrelated stuff.

[stophereyes]

Originally Posted by hirsute_biped

I can't deny that this is probably subconsciously influencing my recent disinterest in Thurston's music, not even excited about Chelsea Light Moving. That and I'm getting into tons of other unrelated stuff.

It's more than subconscious for me. Does anyone know the lyrics to Groovy and Linda?

[EVOLghost]

Originally Posted by zelocia

"Sleepin around, sleepin around
What will the neighbors say
Sleepin around all over town
What will the neighbors say

What you did was wrong
What did you good is gone
Nothing you do is right
Always ends up in a fight"

The most obvious example but what else?

Not sure if that has any relation to their separation.

[stu666]

On one of the recent Thurston Moore/Michael Chapman shows Thurston said before playing Orchard Street, "This is a song about a street that I was hanging out with somebody who I was falling in love with".


Milky cement light, radiation boys
Breaking happy heart, blood and liquid noise
I see yr searchlight eyes, the stoney demon bliss

Wet and drunken desire, dripping tears
Grape stained escape, an immortal kiss
Free Jazz hotel, sweet now girl whispers

Crazy crazy crazy night sky orange
Promise and deceit, blindfolds and prayer
Orchard Street is anchored in divinity's shadow

[zelocia]

Originally Posted by EVOLghost

Not sure if that has any relation to their separation.

Maybe I take that song too literally but I cannot help it.

As jennthebenn said in her ten worst Sonic Youth songs list:

"Post-K & T split this song makes me even more squeamish. It’s enough that their separation has tainted a good song like “Titanium Expose,” but turning this one from piss-poor to crappy is just beyond the pale."

I couldn't agree more.

[SonjaK]

Originally Posted by stu666

On one of the recent Thurston Moore/Michael Chapman shows Thurston said before playing Orchard Street, "This is a song about a street that I was hanging out with somebody who I was falling in love with".

again, did you really (really!) need him saying this explicitly on stage?

i almost finished my translation. it was a rather long (song-by-song) analysis: if you are interested i'll post it....

[Toilet & Bowels]

Man, Thurston Moore's lyrics are so corny.

[Aaaadrpk]

nothing against, it's interesting what all you think and heard and share etc. (at least for me, living too far of thurs/lee/kim/steve recently concerts, gigs, performances)
but this thread now could be called ''behind thurston moore mind: the subliminal messages" maybe i'll play psychic hearts in backwards! -->obvious it's a joke.

[guest]

Originally Posted by stu666

On one of the recent Thurston Moore/Michael Chapman shows Thurston said before playing Orchard Street, "This is a song about a street that I was hanging out with somebody who I was falling in love with".


Milky cement light, radiation boys
Breaking happy heart, blood and liquid noise
I see yr searchlight eyes, the stoney demon bliss

Wet and drunken desire, dripping tears
Grape stained escape, an immortal kiss
Free Jazz hotel, sweet now girl whispers

Crazy crazy crazy night sky orange
Promise and deceit, blindfolds and prayer
Orchard Street is anchored in divinity's shadow

damnnnnnn....

I also thought maybe antenna could have something to do with this:

my darling cruises the streets for pleasure
skyscrapers in the dead love dawn
throbbing blood mind selfless creature
forever yours and then she's gone
radios play nothing when she's far away
tv antenna nothing gone to waste
radio transmitting nowhere it falls away,
she's far away

it all seems pretty obvious now...

[Aaaadrpk]

but now interacting with "what could means"

I always imagined Pink Steam lyrics to Kim.

Don't you know you need no other
I'm the man who loves you mother
Open up your arms to me girl
Let me feel your wild heart beat girl

Sweet lips flowers + cream
Deep in love surrender pink steam
Deep in love you need no other
Deep in love yr lonely lover

it's f* beautiful even more with my 'what I think illusion'


And, first Lee solo concert and he said something like: ''this is kind of a love song to ..couple dear friends mine... going through shit right now" ... the music is Angles. here's the video.

http://vimeo.com/31200288

[Keeping It Simple]

I'm sure the few people that read the Guardian enjoyed the interview.

[Genteel Death]

Too many magical words for a kerb crawler.

[badgercorn]

Well in any case, Pink Steam and Sleeping Around were released 7 years ago, and so were probably written 8 years ago.

[Rob Instigator]

and who knows how long T's been dippin' his wick into extraneous honey pots?

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

and who knows how long T's been dippin' his wick into extraneous honey pots?

no idea

--


I AM DEAD BY THE BEAUTY OF STRANGERS
IN HORROR MY EYE-HEAD TRANSFORMS THEM
INTO SMILING, BEATIFIC ROOM MATES
FROM DUST TO DUST THEY CREATE ROCK N ROLL


--

anyway, nice interview. she's always been my favorite sy-er, kim. kim and steve actually who is nice enough to reply to emails. even if he much prefers pepsi. kim is the smartest of them all though.

[SonjaK]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

and who knows how long T's been dippin' his wick into extraneous honey pots?

of course we don't know: maybe he had other women before "Mina Loy", but I think that she's something more recent: "in july she came to play, by january he learns to pray", so probably it started in july 2010 and in january 2011 he started to realize what was really happening... (you don't need much more time to realize that you are in love, and you need a bit more - october 2011 - to do what you have to...)

i finished my translation: it seems to me a litteral translation from italian, so i'm not sure that it is good...

i'll have to split it into two post because the system tells me that it is too long...

[Skuj]

Yeah, I dunno.....I might get crucified for this but, 4 years on from The Eternal (indeed!) I actually hope that Sonic Youth are now done. A new album anytime down the road isn't going to be right, somehow. 16 main albums (and many more sideroad ones) over the course of 3 decades (consistently 5 ish per decade), when none of those decades sucked in terms of output (I'm a diehard Oughties Defender), is a long road. They done good. We can now step back and quantify it all as Eternal fades into musical history.

[zelocia]

Personally, I don't like to think of The Eternal as their final statement. Although the chances are extremely slim, I am crossing my fingers that they will get back into the studio together someday. Some songs on The Eternal are great (Antenna, Malibu Gas Station, Walkin Blue and Massage The History). But overall as an album, for me, it's like they were trying too hard. I miss Jim.