The man who loves to wind up the art world - Page 2

jon boy · 07.26.2007, 11:44 AM

i like it!

afterthefact · 07.26.2007, 11:50 AM

Wow, this is the stupidest crap I've ever seen. All it is is some guy thinking of something to do, and ANYTHING counts as something, and then paying somebody to do it. I stopped looking after A WORKER´S ARM PASSING THROUGH THE CEILING OF AN ART SPACE FROM A DWELLING. I simply couldn't waste anymore time on it. Seriously, not EVERYTHING can be called art; it just can't.

P.S. Did he invent the glory hole?

atsonicpark · 07.26.2007, 12:18 PM

Art's fucking ridiculous.

On that note, I saw Cremaster 3: The Order the other day.. the little 31 minute piece that's going to be the only official DVD release ever, apparently.. and then I proceeded to read about the rest of the Cremaster Cycle, and the "artist" who made those actually DID release 20 DVD's of the whole cycle... for something in the range of $100,000 each... and he's like, "it's art! It's art! The films are art, I can do what I want!"

And I agree: It's his film, he CAN do what he wants, he can present it however he wants, etc. But I do find it curious that he bothered to release a little 31-minute DVD sampler with trailers for the films -- films that occassionally have shown in museums/art house theaters/festivals but one day soon will NEVER BE SHOWN FOR YEARS. So, what's the point? "Check out my trailer! Check out this awesome sampler for a film you'll never see! Nananana boo-boo!" Of course, this just invites bootlegging, and there are bootleg copies of all of these films so yeah.

I just find art so liberating, beautiful, pretentious, and insane... anything -- and I mean ANYTHING -- can be percieved as "great art" or "Terrible art", which is what's so ridiculous about the whole notion of this guy you're talking about... I think a lot of great art is more well-loved for the concept than for actually being something beautiful or thought-provoking... and it seems in the field of art, controversy sells a LOT... take piss christ for example... that guy could go on and paint the most beautiful, expressive, insane thing ever... but he'll forever be known as piss christ dude. And the guy who Metallica stole album covers from.

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07.26.2007, 11:50 AM	#22
afterthefact invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 3,886	Wow, this is the stupidest crap I've ever seen. All it is is some guy thinking of something to do, and ANYTHING counts as something, and then paying somebody to do it. I stopped looking after A WORKER´S ARM PASSING THROUGH THE CEILING OF AN ART SPACE FROM A DWELLING. I simply couldn't waste anymore time on it. Seriously, not EVERYTHING can be called art; it just can't. P.S. Did he invent the glory hole? __________________ "She hated people who thought too much. At that moment, she struck me as an appropriate representative for almost all mankind." - Kurt Vonnegut Cat's Cradle
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07.26.2007, 12:18 PM	#23
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	Art's fucking ridiculous. On that note, I saw Cremaster 3: The Order the other day.. the little 31 minute piece that's going to be the only official DVD release ever, apparently.. and then I proceeded to read about the rest of the Cremaster Cycle, and the "artist" who made those actually DID release 20 DVD's of the whole cycle... for something in the range of $100,000 each... and he's like, "it's art! It's art! The films are art, I can do what I want!" And I agree: It's his film, he CAN do what he wants, he can present it however he wants, etc. But I do find it curious that he bothered to release a little 31-minute DVD sampler with trailers for the films -- films that occassionally have shown in museums/art house theaters/festivals but one day soon will NEVER BE SHOWN FOR YEARS. So, what's the point? "Check out my trailer! Check out this awesome sampler for a film you'll never see! Nananana boo-boo!" Of course, this just invites bootlegging, and there are bootleg copies of all of these films so yeah. I just find art so liberating, beautiful, pretentious, and insane... anything -- and I mean ANYTHING -- can be percieved as "great art" or "Terrible art", which is what's so ridiculous about the whole notion of this guy you're talking about... I think a lot of great art is more well-loved for the concept than for actually being something beautiful or thought-provoking... and it seems in the field of art, controversy sells a LOT... take piss christ for example... that guy could go on and paint the most beautiful, expressive, insane thing ever... but he'll forever be known as piss christ dude. And the guy who Metallica stole album covers from. __________________
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