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A bunch of early Cornell solo out tomorrow for the first time:
https://pearljam.com/shop/music/sing...ack-cd-reissue
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Chris Cornell's Final Performance: Something Clearly Wasn’t Right
Oddly enough, it was sports radio where I heard the most unnerving breakdown of the Chris Cornell tragedy. How the concert venue is adjacent to the casino & hotel and how you must cross the casino floor to reach the hotel elevators......and how he was found dead about 30 minutes after leaving the stage......and as he hurriedly his way toward his room, he called his wife to let her know he was about to end it all......causing her to start calling Soundgarden / Casino security prompting them to breakdown Cornell's hotel door discovering his body. Then earlier today, Cornell's Family Disputes He Died Of Suicide......so sad and odd all the way around! Brad Mehidau Trio - Black Hole Sun |
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wife said he told her he took to Ativan for anxiety before talking to her on phone. he was found on floor with an elastic excercise band around his neck. it had been attached to a carabiner which had been wedged between the top of the bathroom door and the door frame.
horrible.
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Source? Or context maybe? Not trying to be judgy, I'm just trying to make sense of this despite my pretty firm convictions that public mourning has taken on a decidedly perverse, almost grotesque new visage in the social media age. Still want to know which facts are reliable and which aren't. So Bytor posted that Cornell called his wife and told her that he was going to commit suicide, and did so fucking promptly. How does the Ativan report fit in here? He phoned to say he was going to commit suicide and, also, taking Ativan for anxiety? That doesn't make sense, unless the Ativan was part of the suicide attempt notice (e.g., "I'm anxious about the fact that I'm going to kill myself so I'm taking Ativan.") Did what you read line up with what Bytor posted about the casino, the timeline, etc.? |
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So...he finally gets to Say Hello 2 Heaven.
I'll see myself out.
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Really hit me hard. Had 4 different forks over the years, because of him and Hoon. I wonder did they every party with SY?
Fell on black days kept me alive several times.
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He was probably back on doing heroin..
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toxicology has not come back yet. Ativin is known to cause suicidal thoughts as a side effect of the drug.
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Jeez the irony of that. Still gutted about it. Reading Vicky's letter to him makes it worse. I can't imagine getting to the state where leaving my loved ones is the better option. ![]()
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Also ativan + alcohol is known to make people do insane shit they would NEVER do when sober
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Yeah, well... it's no so extreme that it causes someone to do something they're not already flirting with. There's nothing special or unique about Ativan/Lorazepam. It works like all other benzodiazepines, several hypnotics (zolpidem) and its effects are comparable but less powerful than those of alcohol. It's actually the preferred benzodiazepine to treat severe alcohol withdrawal, because it has a similar effect but clouds judgment less. It's basically just xanax/Klonipin/Valium with a slightly different efficacy and halflife. Blaming the drugs is not the way to go. Sure, abuse of any substance will increase your chances of depression, and these things should never be combined with alcohol, but it's not the drug's fault. May sound brash, but if he wasn't facing some demons he likely wouldn't have been combining the drug with alcohol. Drugs are just tools. Hammers and nails. They still require a hand to be used. |
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Cornell had Naloxone (Narcan), Butalbital (a sedative), Lorazepam (Ativan), Pseudoephedrine (a decongestant) and barbiturates in his system at the time of death.
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Weird that Narcan would be in his system. Unless he was taking Suboxone/Subutex, which contains narcan. But then opiates would have shown up as well. The only reason to take Narcan (aside from treating an acute opiate overdose) is to discourage yourself from taking opiates in the first place. Either way, he was going through some shit it seems. |
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How come we get to know this two weeks after he died and with other famous people it's "Oh, well, we need to wait for the toxicologic report, that's gonna take at least four months, or even until the next Olympics, in fact"?
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Toxicology takes about a week or two usually. anything else is just people trying to cover up drug use or poisonings.
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