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gmku · 12.19.2006, 11:28 AM

Yes, early punk rock groups were more different from one another than the general public gives them credit for. But I don't think punk was as wide-ranging as post- or art-punk.

porkmarras · 12.19.2006, 11:28 AM

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porky...is there any place online where i can actually hear some of yr music?

Yes.Why?

Savage Clone · 12.19.2006, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by gmku

Yes, early punk rock groups were more different from one another than the general public gives them credit for. But I don't think punk was as wide-ranging as post- or art-punk.

Also true.
PiL had about a thousand times more musical depth than the Sex Pistols, that's for sure.

gmku · 12.19.2006, 11:30 AM

People, people, people, can we get back on track? Books.

porkmarras · 12.19.2006, 11:31 AM

Take ESG to name one.

Savage Clone · 12.19.2006, 11:35 AM

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People, people, people, can we get back on track? Books.

I like Richard Brautigan and HP Lovecraft, and have tried to get all the way through Pierre Guyotat's "Eden Eden Eden" several times, but still haven't been able to finish. I like his experimental style, but it takes a while to get into the thick of it, and the imagery is so intense that I can only take so much.

sonicl · 12.19.2006, 11:36 AM

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People, people, people, can we get back on track? Books.

A bit of a specialist book, but I'm enjoying it.

gmku · 12.19.2006, 11:37 AM

I keep returning to books I've already read. Is this unusual? Some people have told me it is, but I can also see the same movie many times if it's a favorite.

lucyrulesok · 12.19.2006, 11:38 AM

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Out of curiosity,have you read both books or you are saying things just for the sake of saying them?

i have read swathes of ulysses but not the whole thing, and yes, i have read lord of the rings cover to cover.

i was only being silly though, there are many great long books... and depending on your taste these two could be part of that set.

jheii · 12.19.2006, 12:28 PM

Guyotat is heavy reading. I think Joyce was pretty open about his intentions with Ulysses, as far as writing a (nearly) unreadable book. At the same time he was trying to re-write the odyssey, outdo Shakespeare, and celebrate the absolutely mundane. It's the aesthetics of masturbation, piss, shit, and kidney pies. Now most people fall into the love-Joyce or hate-Joyce camp with neither side seeing room for an in between, but I've always been a fan of breaking convention. I think next on my list are Faulkner and O'Connor. I need to get in touch with my southern roots.

Speaking of Flannery O'Connor, here's a nice little story:
One of my favorite spots in Savannah is a cigar bar called Stogies. Interesting faces always passing through: businessmen, bartenders and waitresses, students, and random vagabonds. One night one of these businessmen and I were waxing celebratory about southern lit, and one of said vagabonds chimed in with some very insightful contributions that suprised the shit out of businessman and me both. Well this guy was very shy, disheveled, and soft spoken so it became hard to understand what he was saying as he poured Budweiser after Budweiser down his gorge and proceeded to tell us a story. His grandmother went to school with Flannery O'Connor, I got that much from the beginning, but the middle was completely lost behind his mumbly accent. I did manage to make out his last sentence which was: "Flannery O'Connor taught the chicken how to dance backwards." Needless to say, the whole crowd erupted into awesome laughter after hearing that.

cryptowonderdruginvogue · 12.19.2006, 01:32 PM

jheii · 12.20.2006, 10:51 AM

Okay...

!@#$%! · 12.20.2006, 12:30 PM

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...it's well known.

But what else have you read since American Lit 101?

Today I picked up Rip It Up and Start Again: Postpunk 1978-1982 by Simon Reynolds. Looks fairly interesting.

i haven't reall all of fitzgerald's books yo, just gatsby.

but most recently i reread pk dick's "ubik", which is great.

i also had a go at american psycho after that, but it bored me a little, and i had much work to do.

most recently i've been reading this

furreal...

krastian · 12.21.2006, 12:56 AM

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Scurrry.

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jheii bad moon rising Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Savannah, GA Posts: 224	Guyotat is heavy reading. I think Joyce was pretty open about his intentions with Ulysses, as far as writing a (nearly) unreadable book. At the same time he was trying to re-write the odyssey, outdo Shakespeare, and celebrate the absolutely mundane. It's the aesthetics of masturbation, piss, shit, and kidney pies. Now most people fall into the love-Joyce or hate-Joyce camp with neither side seeing room for an in between, but I've always been a fan of breaking convention. I think next on my list are Faulkner and O'Connor. I need to get in touch with my southern roots. Speaking of Flannery O'Connor, here's a nice little story: One of my favorite spots in Savannah is a cigar bar called Stogies. Interesting faces always passing through: businessmen, bartenders and waitresses, students, and random vagabonds. One night one of these businessmen and I were waxing celebratory about southern lit, and one of said vagabonds chimed in with some very insightful contributions that suprised the shit out of businessman and me both. Well this guy was very shy, disheveled, and soft spoken so it became hard to understand what he was saying as he poured Budweiser after Budweiser down his gorge and proceeded to tell us a story. His grandmother went to school with Flannery O'Connor, I got that much from the beginning, but the middle was completely lost behind his mumbly accent. I did manage to make out his last sentence which was: "Flannery O'Connor taught the chicken how to dance backwards." Needless to say, the whole crowd erupted into awesome laughter after hearing that. __________________ "In the room the women come and go With Vodka-mixed orange Jello"
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jheii bad moon rising Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Savannah, GA Posts: 224	Okay... __________________ "In the room the women come and go With Vodka-mixed orange Jello"
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