[noisereductions]

did you guys who got to see Hooker pick up this new box set?

https://www.discogs.com/William-Hook...elease/8107615

[tesla69]

Originally Posted by Kuhb

William Parker is legendary... enjoy!

Last night's 10 pm set was fucking intense and killer - Mixashawn Lee Rozie (sax) Alan Licht (guitar) William Parker (bass) William Hooker (drums) in addition there was another man playing sax whose name other than Richard I didn't catch. The set basically congealed as a power trio of the 2 Williams and Alan - I know I saw the 2 horn guys standing back listening and enjoying what was going on - but it sounded great when they kicked in too because they were really listening to what else was going and playing right into it. I was really knocked out I should have expected nothing less with William Hooker and William Parker playing together.

I've seen 3 of the sets this week, and each time William has called out tonites sets as being special - these are the new generation - he said - so I'll catch the 8 pm set
YELLOW I
Matt Lavelle (trumpet) Mike Noordzy (bass) Ras Moshe (reeds) Tor Snyder (guitar) William Hooker (drums)

It is convenient the Stone is about 10 mins fast walk from my apartment.

They were selling the box set at the gig, I did not get one however, finances being tight right now (4 gigs in one week is about all I can deal with + I saw matt valentine last week and also tom carter/Loren Connors duo))

[ilduclo]

sweet! I wish the "nyctaper" guy would get a little more of real NYC on his site, he usually does jam bands or new indy stuff though...

[Kuhb]

I'll always listen to what Matthew Shipp is up to, and this band is great from the live clips turning up this year. Hopefully they make it to the studio.


https://youtu.be/Q5ftwXunMOg

[noisereductions]

Shipp is great. I'm always interested in his work w/ Blue Series Continuum. I was just listening to the Optometry record they recorded w/ DJ Spooky actually.

[Kuhb]

Originally Posted by noisereductions

Shipp is great. I'm always interested in his work w/ Blue Series Continuum. I was just listening to the Optometry record they recorded w/ DJ Spooky actually.

Nice!

This is a great pro shot thing from that period of time... a little time stamped as these kinds of projects always are, but great stuff. I like that Shipp brings a kind of Cecil Taylor/McCoy Tyner influence to the hip hop stuff that isn't afraid to be ugly.

https://youtu.be/P-yhzUFwP8A

[noisereductions]

you nailed it man. I never really made the McCoy Tyner comparison, but now it's totally dead on in my mind. Yeah.

[Kuhb]

Originally Posted by noisereductions

you nailed it man. I never really made the McCoy Tyner comparison, but now it's totally dead on in my mind. Yeah.

There's definitely something I think. I'm mainly basing this on the way he uses his hands as kind of separate entities... unlike the Hancock/Evans school of 50s/60s players, where what's happening between the hands shares some distinctive relationship (scales match chords perfectly, always rooted in some kind of classical harmony, even if heavily altered), Tyner was happy to use somewhat ambiguous sounds in both hands, meaning things that aren't really "supposed" to go together can be sort of "layered", opening up all kinds of different possibilities. I feel like Shipp comes right out if that... and you can totally hear it in the David S Ware bands in the late 90s/00s, where Shipp was totally playing that Tyner role.

Apologies if that's stupidly technical or whatever... I just really like talking about jazz.

[noisereductions]

Originally Posted by Kuhb

Apologies if that's stupidly technical or whatever... I just really like talking about jazz.

no apologies needed. I'm enjoying your observations.

It's been many years since I "studied" music, so nowadays most of my listening is like "oh that's cool. I like the way he did that thing." So it's not quite as deep haha.

[Kuhb]

Originally Posted by noisereductions

no apologies needed. I'm enjoying your observations.

It's been many years since I "studied" music, so nowadays most of my listening is like "oh that's cool. I like the way he did that thing." So it's not quite as deep haha.

So often the best way. The other side of the coin is that you get people from music school who are heavily into music which is artistically and aesthetically worthless because it fulfills some form of "technical" quota.

[ilduclo]

Saw Dave Douglas last night, Jon Irabagon was fantastic! I've heard him with Mary H and MOPDTK, but it was wonderful seeing him live. I heard a bunch of different influences in his playing, but all of it together, he has a really unique sound. Really recommended, if you get a chance, see him

[Kuhb]

Originally Posted by ilduclo

Saw Dave Douglas last night, Jon Irabagon was fantastic! I've heard him with Mary H and MOPDTK, but it was wonderful seeing him live. I heard a bunch of different influences in his playing, but all of it together, he has a really unique sound. Really recommended, if you get a chance, see him

OK cool... I've also heard him with Mary H but nowhere else, will definitely keep in eye out

[tesla69]

from the downtown music gallery update - I really am grateful to Thurston for pointing these guys out. Is it true Heyner has quit music? I know Sabir lives in Italy now.

TEST [DANIEL CARTER/SABIR MATEEN/MATTHEW HEYNER/TOM BRUNO] - Always Coming from the Love Side [2 CD Set] (Eremite 059-60; USA) NYC free jazz cooperative TEST was literally an underground favorite -- as part of the Music Under New York program in the 1990s, TEST was out on the street and subway platforms year-round, playing long-form unadulterated free jazz with an energy and creativity rarely encountered. Even on a scene known for strong personalities, these guys were renegade cats. Eremite heard and recorded TEST many, many times over a ten-year period; Always Coming from the Love Side, a two-CD set from TEST's 1999 US tour captured live by Malachi Ritscher at Fred Anderson's Velvet Lounge just weeks before Y2K (on November 13, to be exact), is right up there among the band's strongest and most memorable performances. The cover photo, for those who don't recognize it, is of the Velvet Lounge's legendary wallpaper. Other images include a portrait of Fred Anderson in front of the club (shot November 2005 by Peter Brötzmann just months before the building was destroyed by the city of Chicago to build a parking garage) and Tony Getsug's photos of TEST tearing up the bandstand there, as well as art and photography by Joshua Abrams and TEST bassist Matthew Heyner. Tom Bruno, drums; Daniel Carter, winds; Matthew Heyner, bass; Sabir Mateen, winds. Edition of 550 copies. Presented in a tri-fold Stoughton sleeve. 2 CD Set $20

I watched a rough cut of a new documentary on DMG last night, it will be very entertaining when done

[Kuhb]

Vijay Iyer / Wadada Leo Smith - A Cosmic Rhythm with Each Stroke

Looking forward to this one. Iyer brings something interesting to free situations... I feel like he somehow moves "slower" than a lot of free players, responding the broader movements and shapes of the music, rather than responding to each passing second and moment. The Trio 3 album with Vijay called "Wiring" from 2014 was a good example of this. Should be great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8CaG3BwPHI

[noisereductions]

 

A1 Discovery
A2 Phenomenon Of Man
A3 The Pit
A4 Gas Bottle
A5 Visions Of Himself
A6 Hysteria
B1 Telekinesis
B2 Night And Day
B3 Looking Back
B4 Into The Vortex
B5 Mass Psychosis
B6 The Final Conclusion

[ilduclo]

Originally Posted by Kuhb

Vijay Iyer / Wadada Leo Smith - A Cosmic Rhythm with Each Stroke

Vijay was great solo. A really stellar player and composer

[Kuhb]

Originally Posted by ilduclo

Vijay was great solo. A really stellar player and composer

A somewhat rare case where the hype and awards are justified. He brings together '60s players like Andrew Hill, '80s NYC avant-garde, the rhythms and displacement of hip hop, all in one coherent voice.

I wish Jason Moran was more prolific recently because he's another contemporary pianist doing special things

[Kuhb]

Originally Posted by Kuhb

A somewhat rare case where the hype and awards are justified. He brings together '60s players like Andrew Hill, '80s NYC avant-garde, the rhythms and displacement of hip hop, all in one coherent voice.

I wish Jason Moran was more prolific recently because he's another contemporary pianist doing special things

In the somewhat "mainstream", that is

[Kuhb]

Originally Posted by noisereductions

 

A1 Discovery
A2 Phenomenon Of Man
A3 The Pit
A4 Gas Bottle
A5 Visions Of Himself
A6 Hysteria
B1 Telekinesis
B2 Night And Day
B3 Looking Back
B4 Into The Vortex
B5 Mass Psychosis
B6 The Final Conclusion

Just looked these guys up... awesome! Going to enjoy digging through their stuff

[Kuhb]

Originally Posted by noisereductions

 

A1 Discovery
A2 Phenomenon Of Man
A3 The Pit
A4 Gas Bottle
A5 Visions Of Himself
A6 Hysteria
B1 Telekinesis
B2 Night And Day
B3 Looking Back
B4 Into The Vortex
B5 Mass Psychosis
B6 The Final Conclusion

A couple of tracks reminded me of the more experimental tracks by Medeski, Martin and Wood, such as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ngLS2UZkUk