[Rob Instigator]

hahahah. trump no rock no styles, he strictly roots.

[Rob Instigator]

the most amoral people are ussually the ones shouting most lopudly about family values and morality. it is their costume. It allows them to be as evil and base as possible without tipping anyone off, because most the average person is fairly dumb, and half the population is EVEN DUMBER THAN THAT!

[Rob Instigator]

Cosby had a great costume, so did Catholic Priests, rapist and murderer police....

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by Severian

Judge Dredd is like 60-79% political satire at all times.

Yes, if anything 100%, but there's an interesting story there. I remember reading an interview with someone at 2000AD talking about the reasons why they created him, which were exactly as you describe. What they soon discovered, though, going to conventions and reading fan-mail, was that fans overwhelmingly took him straight, and loved him for it. The more fascist the writers made him in an attempt to try and stop the hero-worship, the more popular he became, to the extent they even toyed with dropping him altogether.

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by Severian

Frankly, I don't think Batman or the Joker or ANYONE in the Batverse shoukd even be attempted until the Dark Knight Trilogy is given at LEAST 10 years to settle.

Heath Ledger's Joker was so off the fucking charts I simply cannot even BEGIN TO BEGIN to imagine how anybody could measure up to his performance. (And talk about range: from Ennis Del Mar to The Joker — WHO has that kind of scope nowadays?).

Jack Nicholson, by the by, was a PATHETIC Joker, probably the worst performance of his career (well, he did do that horseshit with Adam Sandler...), and my take on why is that he simply didn't understand the character — he read the script, which, retrospectively, was pretty goddamn weak; he talked to Burton, who obviously wouldn't tell Jack fuckin' Nicholson what to do; and maybe one of his minions slip him a Batman comic book of the shitty kind.

[Rob Instigator]

I also always thought nicholson's Joker was half-assed.

Ledger's Joker was good, but the Joker is supposed to be inscrutable, and the Batman is never ever aware of his motivations or what makes him tick, which is why he is such an irrational foe...Ledger's joker was portrayed awesome. Too bad Christian Bale has no real menace in his portrayal of batman, and I HATE HIS FUCKING SHIT VOICE GROWL especially since I never thought Batman had a lisp.

[Rob Instigator]

Adam West saved the batman comics. they were tanking in sales and importance until the TV show.

[tesla69]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

Adam West saved the batman comics. they were tanking in sales and importance until the TV show.

That late 50's early 60's silver age era stuff really isn't very good!

[Severian]

Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

Heath Ledger's Joker was so off the fucking charts I simply cannot even BEGIN TO BEGIN to imagine how anybody could measure up to his performance. (And talk about range: from Ennis Del Mar to The Joker — WHO has that kind of scope nowadays?).

Jack Nicholson, by the by, was a PATHETIC Joker, probably the worst performance of his career (well, he did do that horseshit with Adam Sandler...), and my take on why is that he simply didn't understand the character — he read the script, which, retrospectively, was pretty goddamn weak; he talked to Burton, who obviously wouldn't tell Jack fuckin' Nicholson what to do; and maybe one of his minions slip him a Batman comic book of the shitty kind.

Must spread reputation around before giving it to The Soup Nazi again.

GODDAMN RIGHT!

[Severian]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

I also always thought nicholson's Joker was half-assed.

Ledger's Joker was good, but the Joker is supposed to be inscrutable, and the Batman is never ever aware of his motivations or what makes him tick, which is why he is such an irrational foe...Ledger's joker was portrayed awesome. Too bad Christian Bale has no real menace in his portrayal of batman, and I HATE HIS FUCKING SHIT VOICE GROWL especially since I never thought Batman had a lisp.

Well, at least you recognize the brilliance of Ledger.

It's no contest. No Fucking contest. Nicholson might even have been worse than Leto. Doesn't matter. They're not even in Heath's fucking GALAXY. Fuckers.

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

WHO has that kind of scope nowadays?

I'm gonna answer my own question: Vincent D'Onofrio. Private Leonard "Gomer Pyle" Lawrence -> Detective Robert Goren -> Edgar the Bug.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

I'm gonna answer my own question: Vincent D'Onofrio. Private Leonard "Gomer Pyle" Lawrence -> Detective Robert Goren -> Edgar the Bug.

He's played a lot of different roles, but he's settled into type at this point. And he never played any of them particularly well. I mean, he's not bad, but he's not great.

Daniel Day Lewis has the kind of range you're talking about.

Christian Bale is not to be overlooked either. I think he's going for kind of a modern Deniro kind of thing. Or maybe Pacino. His Batman role was his most boring and straight-forward by far. Look at American Psycho > The Machinist > the Fighter > American Hustle > the Big Short. He's really quite something.

There was another actor who came to mind, but I lost the thread when I was masturbating all over Christian Bale just now. Hmm...

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by Severian

He's played a lot of different roles, but he's settled into type at this point. And he never played any of them particularly well. I mean, he's not bad, but he's not great.

 

Private "Gomer Pyle" wasn't played particularly well?! Fuck you and your whole family, TINY! D'Onofrio is a GOD.

Originally Posted by Severian

Daniel Day Lewis has the kind of range you're talking about.

Never been a huge fan, but he's a fine actor, yes.

Originally Posted by Severian

Christian Bale is not to be overlooked either. I think he's going for kind of a modern Deniro kind of thing. Or maybe Pacino. His Batman role was his most boring and straight-forward by far. Look at American Psycho > The Machinist > the Fighter > American Hustle > the Big Short. He's really quite something.

Agreed, really great actor. (Great mumblecore actor, too. ). True story: when James Lipton asked Amy Adams (we're being chauvinist pigs here, by the way — Adams destroys at least 90 to 95% of male actors out there) what working with Bale was, she said she had met him, and he was "lovely", but she felt she had worked with Dicky and Irving, not with Christian Bale. There's a Method man for ya.

Anyway, as for who truly is THE MAN in this day and age, there can be only one answer:

 

[Severian]

Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

 

Private "Gomer Pyle" wasn't played particularly well?! Fuck you and your whole family, TINY! D'Onofrio is a GOD.


Never been a huge fan, but he's a fine actor, yes.


Agreed, really great actor. (Great mumblecore actor, too. ). True story: when James Lipton asked Amy Adams (we're being chauvinist pigs here, by the way — Adams destroys at least 90 to 95% of male actors out there) what working with Bale was, she said she had met him, and he was "lovely", but she felt she had worked with Dicky and Irving, not with Christian Bale. There's a Method man for ya.

Anyway, as for who truly is THE MAN in this day and age, there can be only one answer:

 

D'onofrio was excellent in Full Metal Jacket, but that's more because everything in that film was excellent. He did what he was told, and he did it well. Still not a brilliant performance, just a really memorable character and a particularly mind-blowing segment of a near-perfect film.

Re: Shannon (that is Michael Shannon, yeah?) he's very good, but not the best out there.

And yeah, Amy Adams annihilates just about everyone. Tidal Swinton is something else too. As is Cate Blanchet. But Amy... oh, Amy.

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by Severian

Re: Shannon (that is Michael Shannon, yeah?) he's very good, but not the best out there.

SACRILEGE.

Originally Posted by Severian

Tidal Swinton is something else too.

Can you for ONCE not refer to something linked to Jay-Z and his buddies? It's TILDA Swinton, you sick kanyewestfreudianslip degenerate!

 

[Severian]

Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

SACRILEGE.

Can you for ONCE not refer to something linked to Jay-Z and his buddies? It's TILDA Swinton, you sick kanyewestfreudianslip degenerate!

 

Wait, how is Tilda Swinton linked to Jay-Z? I genuinely have no idea, or if I do I've forgotten and it's been pushed to the absolute back of my brain. I known of no degrees of Kevin Bacon between Tilda and Jay or between Tilda and Kanye.



Also, I'm really not that big into Jay anymore, and I don't think I talk about him much at all anymore. He has a new album coming, so I'm fervently hoping it isn't a disappointment, so I've mentioned him recently, but it's not as though I talk about Jay Z with any kind of regularity here. Kanye? Yeah. Kendrick? But Jay Z? Not in a while mon frere... not in a while.

Also shut up!

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by Severian

Wait, how is Tilda Swinton linked to Jay-Z? I genuinely have no idea, or if I do I've forgotten and it's been pushed to the absolute back of my brain. I known of no degrees of Kevin Bacon between Tilda and Jay or between Tilda and Kanye.



Also, I'm really not that big into Jay anymore, and I don't think I talk about him much at all anymore. He has a new album coming, so I'm fervently hoping it isn't a disappointment, so I've mentioned him recently, but it's not as though I talk about Jay Z with any kind of regularity here. Kanye? Yeah. Kendrick? But Jay Z? Not in a while mon frere... not in a while.

Also shut up!

I honestly don't know whether you've finally lost it or what the fuck. You typed/"tapped" "TIDAL Swinton".

[noisereductions]

Amy rules.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

I honestly don't know whether you've finally lost it or what the fuck. You typed/"tapped" "TIDAL Swinton".

Oh you dickhead. I'm using my phone, and the last word I typed that was similar to that was TIDAL.

Haha. That is funny that I did that though.

Here I thought you were going to point out some connection between Tilda (it just auto-corrected to "Tulsa" this time) and Jay Z -- like maybe Tilda was in this or that video, or is suspected of having slept with Jay behind Beyoncé's back... and I was totally going to be like, "Looks like YOU'RE the one who's obsessed... I had no clue about any of that!"

Bahahaha!

Also, it seems weird that the only possible explanations you're willing to entertain for this typo are that
A) I've "finally lost it" due to my obvious Tell Tale Heart-level psychotic obsession with... Jay Z and his dumb music service that I don't use,
OR B) "what the fuck."

Dickhead.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by noisereductions

Amy rules.

What the hell man? Go beat up Soup Nazi and defend my honor!

How come you never have my back, bra?

Is it because I, like, literally never have yours?