What is the Fascination with Mascis and Dino Jr on this board??? - Page 2

Trasher02 · 07.01.2007, 12:18 PM

I thought that you're living all over me was great, I don't really listen to them anymore I kind of passed that period.

PAULYBEE2656 · 07.01.2007, 12:20 PM

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sonicl · 07.01.2007, 01:03 PM

When Dino Jr first happened, they were something wild and special. Now they're just college rock. Mascis is a Clapton for the new alt-generation.

luxinterior · 07.01.2007, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by sonicl

When Dino Jr first happened, they were something wild and special. Now they're just college rock. Mascis is a Clapton for the new alt-generation.

It boggles my mind that anyone could think Clapton was ever exciting, let alone being exciting to this very day.

With that said, Mascis is even worse.

SynthethicalY · 07.01.2007, 01:12 PM

Freak Scene is one of the few songs I enjoyed by them, and Just Like Heaven as well.

Everyneurotic · 07.01.2007, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by luxinterior

It boggles my mind that anyone could think Clapton was ever exciting, let alone being exciting to this very day...

i agree 90% with this, for the other 10%, refer to the yardbirds.

king_buzzo · 07.01.2007, 01:17 PM

haha J hates Clapton! (Just read that in an interview)

sonicl · 07.01.2007, 01:17 PM

The current state of mainstream alternative rock is so dire that there are no acts to get excited about, so everyone is getting excited about stuff that happened 20 years ago instead. The real question should be "Why is alternative rock in such a terrible state right now?" And my answer is that it's because major labels are unwilling to take any risks, there are no big independent labels like 20 years ago who can break an exciting band, and the bands that people should be getting excited about are unwilling to play the corporate game. So there.

auto-aim · 07.01.2007, 01:48 PM

This is an interesting subject because definatly I find that Dino jr are a band here that a lot of people have a double standard with. Dino jr have never been that original at all and it'd stuff like that that which is a source for a lot of critizism for other band on this board - that being said, Dino jr are definatly one of my favourite bands of all time and you're a fool if you dont see how great they are. It's down to earth honest music and it has pull and weight to it. I don't like speaking about bands in terms of like awesome guitar solos and great songs because when i like a band it's something personal to me and I can't fathom why people wouldnt feel anything listening to You're living all over me.

king_buzzo · 07.01.2007, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by auto-aim

This is an interesting subject because definatly I find that Dino jr are a band here that a lot of people have a double standard with. Dino jr have never been that original at all and it'd stuff like that that which is a source for a lot of critizism for other band on this board - that being said, Dino jr are definatly one of my favourite bands of all time and you're a fool if you dont see how great they are. It's down to earth honest music and it has pull and weight to it. I don't like speaking about bands in terms of like awesome guitar solos and great songs because when i like a band it's something personal to me and I can't fathom why people wouldnt feel anything listening to You're living all over me.

thank you.

Rob Instigator · 07.01.2007, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by fishmonkey

"What is the Fascination with Mascis and Dino Jr on this board???"

i have been asking myself this question for a long time now, just never had the balls to make a thread out of it.
i'm not trendy enough to be a Dino-bore Jr fan.

hahah! I am so sorry fich monkey but you have just uttered the single most unbelievably moronic falsehood I have ever heard! Dinosaur Jr TRENDY? Liking them is TRENDY????? FUCK! In absolutely no way is a VERY VERY belated acknowledgement of the quality of a band from TWENTY YEARS AGO in any way TRENDY!!!

I am sorry, I apologize. It is just that to a dinosaur jr fan since 1987, when only around 250 thousand people in the entire country gave a flying fuck about dinosaur jr, the idea that liking them would in any way ever be trendy would have been a PIPE DREAM!!!!!

terminal pharmacy · 07.01.2007, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by auto-aim

that being said, Dino jr are definatly one of my favourite bands of all time and you're a fool if you dont see how great they are.

hmmmm, anyone can say that about any band they think is one of the greatest of all time, however an opinion about a piece of music doesn't make one a fool. If one finds Dino Jr. boring as bat shit then so be it. I just wanted to find out what it was that did it for people like Buzzo the whys?

pbradley · 07.01.2007, 06:13 PM

You asked, I'll answer.

One thing that fascinates me about Dinosaur Jr in their own right is the ability for J's guitar solos and general songwriting to come off as lamenting instead of grandstanding or typically indie rock (not all the time but done well in many songs). Bulbs of Passion, Repulsion, Quest, Little Fury Things, Kracked, Raisons, Lose, No Bones, Let It Ride to name a few. What helps is that Mascis' and Barlow's vocals fit perfectly with the lament and lyrical content.

By the end of Bug, Mascis seems to have pretty much abandoned this style for something different (Keep The Glove, Freak Scene, Pond Song). However, Mascis seems to come back to the lamenting style but rarely (How'd You Pin That One On Me, Out There, Grab It, Back To Your Heart). That and the vocal melodies (in a more general sense) are major reasons that make me lik Dinosaur Jr.

Savage Clone · 07.01.2007, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pbradley

That and the vocal melodies (in a more general sense) are major reasons that make me lik Dinosaur Jr.

That's interesting. For me, the vocals were the final dealbreaker. I couldn't hang.

pbradley · 07.01.2007, 06:47 PM

Yeah, the vocals are indeed a polarizer.

fishmonkey · 07.02.2007, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

hahah! I am so sorry fich monkey but you have just uttered the single most unbelievably moronic falsehood I have ever heard! Dinosaur Jr TRENDY? Liking them is TRENDY????? FUCK! In absolutely no way is a VERY VERY belated acknowledgement of the quality of a band from TWENTY YEARS AGO in any way TRENDY!!!

I am sorry, I apologize. It is just that to a dinosaur jr fan since 1987, when only around 250 thousand people in the entire country gave a flying fuck about dinosaur jr, the idea that liking them would in any way ever be trendy would have been a PIPE DREAM!!!!!

they are a name dropper band. plain and simple.

Toilet & Bowels · 07.02.2007, 04:57 AM

fish monkey is right, dinosaur jr probably have more cool points now than at any other time in their career.

anyway, rob instigator aside, i think the people who like that band are all teenagers nowadays.

pbradley · 07.02.2007, 05:12 AM

I don't know, when I saw them play twice over the last year or so the youngest people there were in their twenties (including myself) and there was quite a few thirty to fourty year olds there. Hell, a group of late twenty year old buddy type guys crowded me out of my view when I saw them at the Great American.

I wanted to ask them if their wives knew that they were out so late.

sonicl · 07.02.2007, 05:20 AM

Plenty of "old" fans are seeing them nowadays, but not talking about them all that much. It's the youngsters that are doing all the talking.

07.02.2007, 05:21 AM

Whichever the case, this continuous and stupid debate about them is frankly boring and useless. It comes down to a couple of overexcited teenagers liking them and not being able to keep it all zipped up inside one or two threads alone.

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07.01.2007, 01:03 PM	#23
sonicl invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,527	When Dino Jr first happened, they were something wild and special. Now they're just college rock. Mascis is a Clapton for the new alt-generation.
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SynthethicalY invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,408	Freak Scene is one of the few songs I enjoyed by them, and Just Like Heaven as well.
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king_buzzo invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 11,110	haha J hates Clapton! (Just read that in an interview)
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07.01.2007, 01:48 PM	#29
auto-aim the destroyed room Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Wales Posts: 650	This is an interesting subject because definatly I find that Dino jr are a band here that a lot of people have a double standard with. Dino jr have never been that original at all and it'd stuff like that that which is a source for a lot of critizism for other band on this board - that being said, Dino jr are definatly one of my favourite bands of all time and you're a fool if you dont see how great they are. It's down to earth honest music and it has pull and weight to it. I don't like speaking about bands in terms of like awesome guitar solos and great songs because when i like a band it's something personal to me and I can't fathom why people wouldnt feel anything listening to You're living all over me. __________________ His Naked Torso
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07.01.2007, 06:13 PM	#33
pbradley invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: SoKo Posts: 10,621	You asked, I'll answer. One thing that fascinates me about Dinosaur Jr in their own right is the ability for J's guitar solos and general songwriting to come off as lamenting instead of grandstanding or typically indie rock (not all the time but done well in many songs). Bulbs of Passion, Repulsion, Quest, Little Fury Things, Kracked, Raisons, Lose, No Bones, Let It Ride to name a few. What helps is that Mascis' and Barlow's vocals fit perfectly with the lament and lyrical content. By the end of Bug, Mascis seems to have pretty much abandoned this style for something different (Keep The Glove, Freak Scene, Pond Song). However, Mascis seems to come back to the lamenting style but rarely (How'd You Pin That One On Me, Out There, Grab It, Back To Your Heart). That and the vocal melodies (in a more general sense) are major reasons that make me lik Dinosaur Jr.
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07.01.2007, 06:47 PM	#35
pbradley invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: SoKo Posts: 10,621	Yeah, the vocals are indeed a polarizer.
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07.02.2007, 04:57 AM	#37
Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,282	fish monkey is right, dinosaur jr probably have more cool points now than at any other time in their career. anyway, rob instigator aside, i think the people who like that band are all teenagers nowadays.
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07.02.2007, 05:12 AM	#38
pbradley invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: SoKo Posts: 10,621	I don't know, when I saw them play twice over the last year or so the youngest people there were in their twenties (including myself) and there was quite a few thirty to fourty year olds there. Hell, a group of late twenty year old buddy type guys crowded me out of my view when I saw them at the Great American. I wanted to ask them if their wives knew that they were out so late.
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07.02.2007, 05:20 AM	#39
sonicl invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,527	Plenty of "old" fans are seeing them nowadays, but not talking about them all that much. It's the youngsters that are doing all the talking.
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07.02.2007, 05:21 AM	#40
sarramkrop Posts: n/a	Whichever the case, this continuous and stupid debate about them is frankly boring and useless. It comes down to a couple of overexcited teenagers liking them and not being able to keep it all zipped up inside one or two threads alone.
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