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Not worse than The Clash. ps: What's with the A Taste Of Honey avatars and the threads about rockabilly? Are you turning into Morrisey? |
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They didn't really make it with Warhol to be fair.
And having a good/successful manager isn't enough alone to make you a boy/girl band, Toto. |
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I'm sure it made a difference putting his name next to a banana.
Make or break for the VU at the time.
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And I just got a lot of r&b/rock 'n' roll/rockabilly CDs back from somebody I lent them to and so we were playing them. AND I was looking at the Ken Russell 50s pictures, and I loved the teddy girl ones: |
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Yeah, it did. Maureen Tucker once said that the money that she made with the Velvets at the time was barely enough to buy herself perfume, a packet of cigarettes and the train journey home.
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That's a gorgeous picture. |
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08.06.2007, 07:45 AM | #27 |
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She's 14 there apparently.
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08.06.2007, 07:52 AM | #28 |
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If by boy/girl band you mean manufactured, then the quality of the band is going to be determined by the manufacturer - some of whom, inevitably, have more talent than others.
This talent doesn't have to relate directly to music; it can be about having a vision. People like Kim Fowley and Malcolm McLaren, for example. Both geniuses, in their own way. |
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I guess any Motown band was a boy/girl band.
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Ding Ding. Of course it'd be nice if one of the boy bands to follow were interested in pushing the envelope as the beatles became when they got bored with the screaming girlies. I can't think of another one where that happened for some reason, must've been the acid. |
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08.06.2007, 10:03 AM | #31 |
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Anyone remember Blazin' Squad? |
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08.06.2007, 10:12 AM | #34 |
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There used to be a guy who worked in one of the bars in this building who would hang out with them. He had the decency to keep some distance, after a while. Wicked!
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08.06.2007, 10:19 AM | #35 |
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I have never seen a group of young men more undesirable than the blazin squad.
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08.06.2007, 10:49 AM | #36 |
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You can say that out loud.
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08.06.2007, 11:06 AM | #37 |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girl_group
(females sing (generally harmonizing together) but do not play any or all the of the instruments) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boy_band (a type of pop, R&B or hip hop group featuring three or more young male singers) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-women_band (musical groups in which females sing and play all the instruments) There is no listing obviously for "all-male rock band" as it is superfluous. Given these terms, The Marvelettes on the Motown label were the first "girl group." They hit #1 with "Please Mr. Postman" in 1961. Other early examples include The Supremes, The Ronettes and Shangri-Las. Although, predating these groups by a good bit were outfits growing out of the vaudeville tradition like The Boswell Sisters and later, The Andrews Sisters. The Monkees would be the first "boy band" if not for a couple of conditions. They did learn to play their instruments in the end. Also, none of The Monkees were teenagers when the show first aired in 1965. New Edition is cited by wiki as the first "boy band" along with New Kids On The Block next. I'll hold, however, that Menudo (from Puerto Rico (as pictured in Tokolosh's post)) were first since the original line-up was formed in 1977. But Menudo really didn't break in the U.S. until on into the eighties and they never became a huge draw outside of Latin America in their history really. They never had a private jet like Menudo, but Musical Youth (a band of talented British schoolchildren known for their 1979 international smash "Pass the Dutchie" based on the Mighty Diamonds' "Pass The Kouchie" (a reggae song about cannabis)) are also worth mentioning. A Peel Session got them signed to MCA. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_Youth
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VU's third album is all about pop choruses. My personal interpretation is that everything they did was, depending on the elasticity of your interpretation, a pop song. Even if you don't agree with my self-confessed 'liberal' interpretation of pop, can you really say Sunday Morning is not a pop song? I'm sticking with you? All tomorrow's parties? I'm waiting for the man? VU took pop to other places, and it's easy to conflate the idea of rock music (which follows the verse/ chorus/ verse or verse/ bridge/ chorus [etc] model) with non-pop when pop has, in a huge amount of cases, exactly the same musical structure as 'rock'.
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Sonic Youth
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08.07.2007, 12:43 AM | #40 |
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get wikied.
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