whats the difference between a mono mix and a stereo mix? - Page 2

atari 2600 · 05.15.2006, 08:05 PM

Since Everyneurotic answered the query so well, I'll go with the PF flow...

www.loobiecore.com/thewall.mp3

if this were the original version of the song, then rest assured that nobody would remember "The Wall" all these years later. Sebadoh are alright; the intensly lo-fi weed=forestin is great, but indie rockers should really refrain from making complete asses out of themselves like this if they can help themselves at all.
I will agree though that The Wall is overblown & it is the hallmark of the end of Pink Floyd's best music, although it has its moments.

Early (The) Pink Floyd with Syd Barrett & early Pink Floyd without Syd Barrett are both great.

The 10 best Pink Floyd albums:

Meddle
The Piper at the Gates of Dawn
Wish You Were Here
A Saucerful of Secrets
Animals
The Dark Side of the Moon
Ummagumma
Atom Heart Mother
The Wall
Soundtrack from "More"

Pablitzen · 05.15.2006, 08:19 PM

when i saw this video i started to listen to pink floyd

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pLAatHhPrdk

SpectralJulianIsNotDead · 05.15.2006, 09:55 PM

Here is my opinion on Pink Floyd

Syd Barret Pink Floyd- Awesome
Roger Waters Pink Floyd- Good
David Gilmour Pink Floyd- Bottom of the barrel shit

terminal pharmacy · 05.16.2006, 04:36 AM

pro studios will always listen to their mixes in mono to check the levels of each individual channel in the mix, this is because it really gives you a good idea of balance of the frequency spectrum, it also gives you a good idea of what you will hear on a crap mono radio. i recommend this to anyone struggling with their mix downs in their home studios because it is a great way to learn how to balance you instruments with in a mix, particularly drums. there is the struggle of choice in the pro production industry whether you go for the highest quality broadcast systems available or simplify to reach a greater audience. however this is not such a huge issue as it was ten years ago with the price of computer surround speakers being available for the price of two cds.

stereo, 5.1 and up allows you to physically move the signal from the centre (where your mono all sums to) to anywhere you want in the physical space of your speaker setup. this also allows you to spread the same signal over multiple output channels such as left centre right sub rear left and rear right.

in the live pro audio world, what is happening is numerous mono signals are input into the console and the engineer then makes the decision where these signals should be sent in either the stereo field and beyond. i have worked on professional theatrical productions where i have had up to 24 different places to be able to output signal to. this is quite complex but can be exceedingly satisfying to hear what can be achieved in a live situation.

i hope this gives a bit more insight into the world of audio and answers your question at the same time.

TP

scott v · 05.16.2006, 03:39 PM

cool shit terminal...

maybe its just me i'm just a little suprised that one does not understand the difference between mono and stereo... but thats just me...

anyways i have mono versions of a few things like the 1st 3 Hendrix albums, 'Axis Bold as Love' is amazing in Mono vs. Stereo... some of the Beatles mono versions i can do without. And i have a handful of Impulse! label Free Jazz albums in mono (John Coltrane, Roswell Rudd...etc)

terminal pharmacy · 05.16.2006, 07:40 PM

technically all recordings are made of mono signals so it is quite feasible not understanding. there are few instruments that provide a stereo signal and the ones that do mostly are used in mono anyway.

terminal pharmacy · 05.16.2006, 07:42 PM

m^a(t)h didn't understand so m^a(t)h asked what is wrong with that? smarter to ask than to pretend that it is understood

luxinterior · 05.16.2006, 10:19 PM

The Velvet's "Heroin" in mono is my favorite recording ever.

terminal pharmacy · 05.17.2006, 12:40 AM

nice sig lux

baby bulldog · 05.22.2006, 03:05 PM

One of the reasons Beatles mono mixes are so sought after is that the band themselves(mainly John and Paul)supervised these mixes,the stereo mixes were done by the recording staff.Get the White Album in mono if you can.Or even Revolver or Pepper.They are sonically superior to the stereo ones.

atari 2600 · 09.28.2006, 02:35 PM

if you can't see me ballin' then you need motherfuckin glasses

Savage Clone · 09.28.2006, 02:36 PM

Shouldn't you be changing "ballin'" to "bumpin'," Atari?

atari 2600 · 09.28.2006, 02:37 PM

it's crypto's stupid-ass signature
if you can't see me ballin' then you need motherfuckin glasses

Savage Clone · 09.28.2006, 02:38 PM

I have all signatures on invisible.

golden child · 09.28.2006, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by next step

mono=every spks sound exactly the same.could be 1 or more.
stereo=2 different sources.

well thats not entirely true, the same thing could be coming out of each speaker and it still could be a stereo recording. to be different they speakers have to have different things, but to be stereo doesnt require different things.

hey alex · 09.28.2006, 03:06 PM

since my post of the wall cover....

I have since listened to the wall, live. And i actually really liked it. I have regained my respect for most pink floyd that I had once abandoned when I started liking punk music. Syd Barret stills represents what I think is the best of pink floyd... but in the large scale of things syd barret's pink floyd is different animal form the band that continued. Which were normally pretty cool (see animals, darkside)... but the wall is like a disney soundtrack, and if i rmember correctly, the studio version sounds rather stiff.... but I retract any negative vibes I may've laid on the floyd. They aight.

gmku · 09.28.2006, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luxinterior

The Velvet's "Heroin" in mono is my favorite recording ever.

Absolutely agree!! VU & Nico, all the way through, sounds better in mono than its stereo counterpart.

05.15.2006, 08:05 PM	#21
atari 2600 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,213	Since Everyneurotic answered the query so well, I'll go with the PF flow... www.loobiecore.com/thewall.mp3 if this were the original version of the song, then rest assured that nobody would remember "The Wall" all these years later. Sebadoh are alright; the intensly lo-fi weed=forestin is great, but indie rockers should really refrain from making complete asses out of themselves like this if they can help themselves at all. I will agree though that The Wall is overblown & it is the hallmark of the end of Pink Floyd's best music, although it has its moments. Early (The) Pink Floyd with Syd Barrett & early Pink Floyd without Syd Barrett are both great. The 10 best Pink Floyd albums: Meddle The Piper at the Gates of Dawn Wish You Were Here A Saucerful of Secrets Animals The Dark Side of the Moon Ummagumma Atom Heart Mother The Wall Soundtrack from "More"
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05.15.2006, 08:19 PM	#22
Pablitzen the destroyed room Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 627	when i saw this video i started to listen to pink floyd http://youtube.com/watch?v=pLAatHhPrdk __________________ The guitar guy played real good feedback and super sounding riffs... Pabst blitzer!
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05.15.2006, 09:55 PM	#23
SpectralJulianIsNotDead invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,409	Here is my opinion on Pink Floyd Syd Barret Pink Floyd- Awesome Roger Waters Pink Floyd- Good David Gilmour Pink Floyd- Bottom of the barrel shit
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05.16.2006, 04:36 AM	#24
terminal pharmacy invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 3,358	pro studios will always listen to their mixes in mono to check the levels of each individual channel in the mix, this is because it really gives you a good idea of balance of the frequency spectrum, it also gives you a good idea of what you will hear on a crap mono radio. i recommend this to anyone struggling with their mix downs in their home studios because it is a great way to learn how to balance you instruments with in a mix, particularly drums. there is the struggle of choice in the pro production industry whether you go for the highest quality broadcast systems available or simplify to reach a greater audience. however this is not such a huge issue as it was ten years ago with the price of computer surround speakers being available for the price of two cds. stereo, 5.1 and up allows you to physically move the signal from the centre (where your mono all sums to) to anywhere you want in the physical space of your speaker setup. this also allows you to spread the same signal over multiple output channels such as left centre right sub rear left and rear right. in the live pro audio world, what is happening is numerous mono signals are input into the console and the engineer then makes the decision where these signals should be sent in either the stereo field and beyond. i have worked on professional theatrical productions where i have had up to 24 different places to be able to output signal to. this is quite complex but can be exceedingly satisfying to hear what can be achieved in a live situation. i hope this gives a bit more insight into the world of audio and answers your question at the same time. TP
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05.16.2006, 03:39 PM	#25
scott v expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,484	cool shit terminal... maybe its just me i'm just a little suprised that one does not understand the difference between mono and stereo... but thats just me... anyways i have mono versions of a few things like the 1st 3 Hendrix albums, 'Axis Bold as Love' is amazing in Mono vs. Stereo... some of the Beatles mono versions i can do without. And i have a handful of Impulse! label Free Jazz albums in mono (John Coltrane, Roswell Rudd...etc)
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05.16.2006, 07:40 PM	#26
terminal pharmacy invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 3,358	technically all recordings are made of mono signals so it is quite feasible not understanding. there are few instruments that provide a stereo signal and the ones that do mostly are used in mono anyway.
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05.16.2006, 07:42 PM	#27
terminal pharmacy invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 3,358	m^a(t)h didn't understand so m^a(t)h asked what is wrong with that? smarter to ask than to pretend that it is understood
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05.16.2006, 10:19 PM	#28
luxinterior invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Missouri, land of the free and home of the brave Posts: 2,351	The Velvet's "Heroin" in mono is my favorite recording ever. __________________ "I sweat like a fucking nun on Sunday...I don't even know what that means." - Sebastian Bach
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05.17.2006, 12:40 AM	#29
terminal pharmacy invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 3,358	nice sig lux
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05.22.2006, 03:05 PM	#30
baby bulldog bad moon rising Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 109	One of the reasons Beatles mono mixes are so sought after is that the band themselves(mainly John and Paul)supervised these mixes,the stereo mixes were done by the recording staff.Get the White Album in mono if you can.Or even Revolver or Pepper.They are sonically superior to the stereo ones.
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09.28.2006, 02:35 PM	#31
atari 2600 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,213	if you can't see me ballin' then you need motherfuckin glasses __________________ Robert Rauschenberg, Canyon, 1959. Combine on canvas 81 3/4 x 70 x 24 inches.
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Savage Clone invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11,290	Shouldn't you be changing "ballin'" to "bumpin'," Atari?
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09.28.2006, 02:37 PM	#33
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09.28.2006, 03:06 PM	#36
hey alex the end of the ugly Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 791	since my post of the wall cover.... I have since listened to the wall, live. And i actually really liked it. I have regained my respect for most pink floyd that I had once abandoned when I started liking punk music. Syd Barret stills represents what I think is the best of pink floyd... but in the large scale of things syd barret's pink floyd is different animal form the band that continued. Which were normally pretty cool (see animals, darkside)... but the wall is like a disney soundtrack, and if i rmember correctly, the studio version sounds rather stiff.... but I retract any negative vibes I may've laid on the floyd. They aight. __________________ Duran Duran's 1995 covers album Thank You was recently voted the worst album of all time by a Q magazine poll. Although we respectfully disagree (Sonic Youth's NYC Ghosts & Flowers is clearly the worst album of all time) -Pitchfork (hahahah!) Here's a myspace of my music and 4-track ramblings the electric kites--the jamz of me n my friends
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