[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by phoenix

omfg no dont buy sony buy sennheiser.

omfg yo have no clue... school time

the mdr 7506 are good. sennheiser makes great products but they cost more. he's not buying headphones for his stereo, but monitors. what does that mean?

a monitor headphone gives you a flat response with minimum coloration. it's not about sounding "great" but sounding accurate. those sonys i mentioned are a great, great value, and you'll find a pair in every studio, radio station, etc. sure you can have others (i have 2 of these and a pair of AKGs) but these are great for the price very comfortable for long hours and easy to find and some places will have them for just a bit over $50.

[floatingslowly]

I <3 my sennheisers.

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

minimum coloration

nazi pig.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by floatingslowly

I <3 my sennheisers.



nazi pig.

missing the point

. <------ see here

[floatingslowly]

oh, I saw yr point, and I chose to blatantly ignore it, mein fuhrer.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by floatingslowly

mein fuhrer.

ew, dont get all lovy dovy with me like that.

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[floatingslowly]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

ew, dont get all lovy dovy with me like that.

would you prefer Il Douche'?

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[!@#$%!]

doh.

monitors. you hear.

[floatingslowly]

 

[nicfit]

stop fu*kin' around in my thread you immature aged men!

[floatingslowly]

yeah, !@#$%!, quit fucking up nic's thread!

I'm sorry nic. I'm really sorry.

but you know !@#$%! just loves to hijack.

that rat bastard.

[terminal pharmacy]

Originally Posted by nicfit

Already done , I bought a pair of lovely Yamaha hs50 m that I guess I'll keep till death.


Yes, the HD recorder can transfer WAVs to pc via USB.
Actually I can record stuff, edit it, run it through the mixer, fiddle with the recorder and mixer eq/pan/effects -> monitors and "get the work done" even without a pc, for simple things.

The HD can record up to 4 tracks simultaneously (which is more than enough since I do things solo or as a duo with a guitarist)-> bounce them in a single stereo track (I keep backups of the original tracks )->add another 4 tracks->bounce 4+5/6->7/8 and so on, but I'd like to have the pc to work better with the files ("seeing" them on a screen and working with decent software when/if needed), and since I plan to add some electronic stuff+midi keyboard and so on, I'd like a soundcard+software that can handle a bunch of stuff with no problems.

My main concern as of now (since I don't have enough money to buy all the components together) Is to get the "suggested system requirements" and choose every piece accordingly. Obviously, the faster the better, more ram is good etc etc, but what's actually needed?

A good amd X2 with 2gb ram and a fast, reliable HD would be ok to work with for a few years? In the meantime it's unlikely that I will hire a simphony orchestra, so the required stuff won't dramatically increase anytime soon (not sure about the 64bit thing...)...

Ah, another thing, those fancy condenser-usb mic do actually work well enough?

Now I'll check jakeonguitar's links (thanks for your input too), even if living in italy could make those prices change quite a bit .

Oh, atsonicpark, I already "worked" that way back in the days, I know what you mean, and I can assure you that's not the thing I'm going for this time.

make sure your hard drive is 7200rpm at least. don't buy a usb microphone. start with an sm58, sm57, beta58, beta57, rodes NT1A (large diaphragm condenser), Rodes NT3 (condenser), or Sennheiser E855 (my live vocal mic of choice over an sm58, is basically Sennheiser's equivalent of an sm 58 but sounds a lot warmer.) Soundcard on a budget I would recommend Edirol UA25, UA101, FA66 or FA101. If you want to spend a bit more money then MOTU Ultralite or traveller, Presonus Firepod, RME Fireface, or any metric halo card. monitors i would suggest yamaha hsm50s or hsm 80s, these are both cheaper than most of the other brands but have a flatter frequency response. headphone if you want the cheap ones that are flattish go with the sonys that !@#$% recommended, otherwise if you want to spend some good money on headphones then i suggest sennheiser hd25mkII or hd280 pro or beyer dynamic dt770 in 80ohm rather than the 250ohm model although the 80ohm would be fine for what you want, i only you the 80ohm model for front of house mixing.

[terminal pharmacy]

Originally Posted by phoenix

buy a mac

use garage band

done

garage band is more processor intensive than anything i have ever used not to mention it is highly limited in its capabilities. i can get 56 channels with around 20 plugins on digital performer compared to about 15 channels in garage band before my laptop starts to choke. garage band is for corporations and tv programmes who don't want to pay musicians to write music. it is a bad prog and should be slaughtered in the street for everyone to see.

[nicfit]

I already have the hs 50 m !
Today I checked a bunch of reviews/sites/shops and the motu ultralite looks like a great device that could serve me well for a loooong time...costs a bit more than I hoped to spend , but looks like it would be well worth saving and then buying it.. I'll check those edirol models soon, and see how I like them.. also that presonus firepod....
As of now I don't really need vocal mics (I play instrumental stuff), and I don't even need mics for drums since we'll use electronic beats...a good one for acoustic guitar should do, along with the couple sm57 I already ordered. Obviously your suggestions will be kept for the future, in any case, much appreciated.
RME and Metric Halo stuff is waaaaay over my budget...
How bad are the """"classic""""" AKG K 141?

[terminal pharmacy]

the K141's aren't too bad i have a colleague who uses them, i find them uncomfortable to wear though as i wear glasses and they don't seem to work with those particular headphones

the rode nt1a will give you a great sound on accoustic guitar.

also the ultralite is much much better than the edirol cards, i was trying to fit into a smallish buget though. with the ultralite you get audiodesk which is a scaled down version of digital performer so you get a multitracker with it.

[phoenix]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

omfg yo have no clue... school time

the mdr 7506 are good. sennheiser makes great products but they cost more. he's not buying headphones for his stereo, but monitors. what does that mean?

a monitor headphone gives you a flat response with minimum coloration. it's not about sounding "great" but sounding accurate. those sonys i mentioned are a great, great value, and you'll find a pair in every studio, radio station, etc. sure you can have others (i have 2 of these and a pair of AKGs) but these are great for the price very comfortable for long hours and easy to find and some places will have them for just a bit over $50.

I sounded like I own a pair of sennheiser and so do all the audio techs I know.

you sound like you work for sony.

omfg shcool doesnt start for another month yo.

[phoenix]

and sony are a multi technology company you pay extra dollars for the 'branding'

sennheiser make audio equipment. thats what they do. its expensive because its good.

[phoenix]

Originally Posted by terminal pharmacy

garage band is more processor intensive than anything i have ever used not to mention it is highly limited in its capabilities. i can get 56 channels with around 20 plugins on digital performer compared to about 15 channels in garage band before my laptop starts to choke. garage band is for corporations and tv programmes who don't want to pay musicians to write music. it is a bad prog and should be slaughtered in the street for everyone to see.

i have no idea I dont personally make audio. it was more that setting up a pc and making it actually work these days is fucking labour intensive and boring.

[phoenix]

BUT I DO USE HEADPHONES HOWEVER

hahaha.

[phoenix]

. im going to edit myself.