Surely there's no need for a sudy to confirm that?

[Danny Himself]

I never knew you were a toff, porky!

[GrungeMonkey]

i shall be moving down to east london for uni in september, should be interesting, looking forward to many years of debt afterwards haha

[Toilet & Bowels]

the whole of east london isn't full of bengali kids who hassle everyone, there are none of them in clapton or homerton, for example. when i move back into london it will be east, no question.

I live in the most peaceful part of East London and it's more inner city than Soho.

Danny - I'm as working class as they come.

[the ikara cult]

I cant wait for my armpit of London to become a cultural haven of some kind, though i sense i may have to.
Hey perhaps ill be the cataclysm, who knows.

[Danny Himself]

Originally Posted by sarramkrop

Danny - I'm as working class as they come.

I was joking.

sorry, i thought that you might have been.

[Danny Himself]

It's fine, now that I know you're thoroughly working class I can look forward to discussing 20th century electoral reforms with you in the future.

[Lurker]

Originally Posted by luisxvi

Council
Housed
Anti-social
Vermin

Nope. It's from Romany Gypsy 'chavi' meaning child or 'chav' meaning mate.

[_slavo_]

Originally Posted by Lurker

Nope. It's from Romany Gypsy 'chavi' meaning child or 'chav' meaning mate.

actually yes. In our local slovakian dialect we have a word "čávo" (read "chav-oh"), which means "a cool dude".
just a reminder - there's a lot of Gypsies in eastern Europe, including Slovakia.

[demonrail666]

Some people say it's an acronym of Council Housed And Violent, but no, as Lurker says, it is a gypsy word.

[Cantankerous]

Originally Posted by _slavo_

ew, the chavs. There was a whole lot of them in Liverpool and Birkenhead too, as I remember.

lol chavs
i saw some today

[Glice]

Originally Posted by sarramkrop

Danny - I'm as working class as they come.

You're an ostentatious, well-spoken, bi-lingual queer. That's about as working class as pimms at Wimbledon, you ponce.

NB - I'm also a fake working-class thing.

PP - London is ace and turd in something like equal measure; everyone should live there once, no-one should live there forever.

Avoid Holloway, it's shit.

[Toilet & Bowels]

one of the things that is shit about london is that you find yourself (or at least i find this) constantly having to find new friends because a lot of people who live in london aren't from london and so at some point tend to return to wherever it is they came from.

[Lurker]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

Some people say it's an acronym of Council Housed And Violent, but no, as Lurker says, it is a gypsy word.

I've also heard that it the comes from the name of people from Chatham. Rubbish.

[Pookie]

Originally Posted by Lurker

Nope. It's from Romany Gypsy 'chavi' meaning child or 'chav' meaning mate.

This is one possible origin. But I think it's interesting that for a word that has become so commonplace so recently (certainly no earlier than the 1990s), the origin is so vague.

I know that I was aware of people being 'chavvy' before this, but the meaning was different. Same with the Romany or Gypsy words.

[Lurker]

Romany Gypsy is one group.

[Pookie]

Originally Posted by Lurker

Romany Gypsy is one group.

Romany is one type of gypsy.