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Old 07.06.2008, 11:25 AM   #21
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he makes me want to create music, so he influences me, whether i want to sound like him is a non issue. so please, respectfully, fuck off.

Xenakis has entirely the opposite effect in me, in honesty. That he can create such an awesome wreck makes my efforts seem paltry. I'm generally more influenced to create by terrible music than by good music.
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Old 07.06.2008, 12:48 PM   #22
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influence/inspiration, semantics, blablabla, can't be bothered to make point properly.
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Old 07.06.2008, 01:12 PM   #23
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Whatever I might think my influences are, listening back to a tape of some guitar tracks I just did, the creative shadow that looms largest is clearly The Shaggs.
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Old 07.06.2008, 01:48 PM   #25
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Velvet Underground, NO WAVE bands (d.n.a, mars, the teenage jesus, live skull, the contortions...) ramones, clash,
sex pistols, nirvana, pavement, glenn branca...all freak guitars in the world...
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Old 07.06.2008, 02:12 PM   #26
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the first sonic youth ep (mainly for burning spear)
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Old 07.06.2008, 02:14 PM   #27
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everything i like and everything i don't like.

Yeah. Ever hear something and go, "Man, that sucks. I'm NEVER gonna do that?" Bam. You've been influenced.
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Old 07.06.2008, 04:12 PM   #28
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This thread always riles me for two reasons: first, people will claim to be influenced by Iannis Xenakis. You're not. You may enjoy him, but the odds of you sounding anything like Xenakis, or replicating a small portion of what he does, are miniscule.

The second irritation is the lists of everything that someone listens to, which no-one's going to read.

I'm fucking rotten hungover, so feel free to ignore me.

Ooh, someone's playing organ downstairs, maybe I should go listen...

Glice, I love ya. We should make sweet music together. And by "sweet music", I mean music, not sex.

My influences? Whitehouse Whitehouse White Whitehouse Whithouse The Ex Whitehouse and more Whitehouse. Innit.
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Old 07.06.2008, 04:57 PM   #29
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You do get your money's worth out of your Whitehouse card, dontcha?

And Mr Rail: there is absolutely nothing wrong with being influenced by the Shaggs, except the fact that no-one can ever mimic them without being unmitigated turd. That's music law #237, or 'the Shaggs' exemption clause'.
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Old 07.06.2008, 05:03 PM   #30
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is this thread aimed at musicians?

if it's the case then :

Sy, Pavement, Sebadoh, Pixies, the Ex, Shellac, BRH.

These are just the obvious.
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Old 07.06.2008, 07:36 PM   #31
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Glice, I love ya. We should make sweet music together. And by "sweet music", I mean music, not sex.

My influences? Whitehouse Whitehouse White Whitehouse Whithouse The Ex Whitehouse and more Whitehouse. Innit.

you forgot male rape group, libertarian recordings and consumer electronics.

uhh also sutcliffe jü...sorry no!!! i don't want your platinum fan club card to be revoked.
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Old 07.07.2008, 12:18 AM   #32
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edit: lol i did make it

and i lied about not being influenced by other musicians, that or i was particularly pissed off about something when i made it
http://sonicyouth.com/gossip/showthread.php?t=20178

What I posted then still stands (though off the top of my head I'd add my son - who wasn't around yet then, Alastair Reynolds, William Gibson, Cory Doctorow & Boing Boing, China Mieville, Hawkwind, Daniel Menche, and making a living doing mediation):

LSD & THC (the former not in decades, but enough to last four lifetimes; the latter rarely these days but ditto)
Sonic Youth
Sun Ra
John Cage
Brian Eno
Zeb Andrews (a photographer friend both on Flickr and in my neighborhood, who has taught me many things through his photostream)
Derrick Tyson (another Flickr friend, though this one's in Georgia and we haven't met in person)
Phillip K. Dick
H.P. Lovecraft
Michael Moorcock
Fellini
being an only child
Salvador Dali (though I hope I never do art that cops his style0
Doctor Who
W.S. Burroughs (mostly the Naked Lunch)
iced tea
first two original Planet of the Apes movies
The Point
science fiction literature in general
The Fluxists
The Seattle music scene before it got called "grunge"
Negativland
musique concrete
Sun City Girls
comic books (though I haven't read or collected any in years and no longer own any)
Gertrude Stein
The Man Who Fell to Earth
Bowie/Reed/Iggy
role-playing games (though I kicked that habit completely decades ago)
photocopiers (I worked at Kinkos for 8 years and my biggest flyer art days predate even that)
Holga
computers (most specifically Macs, but both major platforms, and Phostoshop increasingly influences my art)
the quest for pussy
the frustration of creating music that made it less likely I would get any
radio
djing
the Olympia music scene circa end of '90s start of '00s
the Olympia bar scene of the same period
Please Kill Me
the early '90s zine scene
Hundertwasser
cats
Jackson Pollock
rain
I-5
my wife and her art
the Olympia Experimental Music Festival (which I started, but all the acts through the years have been hugely influential)
Amy Denio
Crank Sturgeon
Noggin (RIP Michael)
driving (especially influential to my photography)
Charles Peterson
the rest of the Dead Air Fresheners
Chuck Swaim
The Screamers
Suicide
Patti Smith
Ken Kesey
Ornette Coleman
The Dadists
message boards
Flipside magazine in the early '90s
The Wire
Wired
Wire
Melvins
Stanislaw Lem
digital cameras
strip clubs
never having left the North American continent
making a living as a mediator
Hinduism
Deism
Quakers/Friends
growing up without religion
Einsturzende Neubauten
Legendary Pink Dots/Edward Ka-Spel
The Orb
Beta-lactam Ring Records
The Boredoms
boredom
Portland
The PDX (Portland) Flickr Group
KAOS
KPSU
The Evergreen State College
Brian Cloudhopper (this wacked out Bellingham hippie/activist in the '80s)
The Seattle Peace Heathens
Harry Partch
Stanley Kubrick
Autechre
The Halfler Trio
softcore porn
The Soft Boys
silence

Wow, I must have been holding all that in by refusing to create a personal My Space profile. I feel much better now.
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Old 07.07.2008, 01:01 AM   #33
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you forgot male rape group, libertarian recordings and consumer electronics.

uhh also sutcliffe jü...sorry no!!! i don't want your platinum fan club card to be revoked.



The Male Rape Group track (On to 83) is a seriously great and fucked up piece of racket. Also of note: the first recorded Consumer Electronics gig (Public Attack 3?), at Philip Best's school when he was 14 ("Go on, fucking clap!")
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Old 07.07.2008, 01:04 AM   #34
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You do get your money's worth out of your Whitehouse card, dontcha?

As I said to you when you were last in Lahndahn, by the word "rubbish" in the dictionary, there's a picture of me holding up a copy of Whitehouse's "New Britain" LP, and smiling like an arse.

Me: The Whitehouse joker card for the win.
Everyone else here: Shut it, Smelly.
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Old 07.07.2008, 03:06 AM   #35
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Not just a million bands for sure. I wouldn't see the point of giving records the sole supremacy in being something influential on a person in general, simply because they're not.
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Old 07.07.2008, 04:03 AM   #36
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Sonic Youth
Nine Inch Nails
Bach
The Beatles (lame, but I'm being honest)
Radiohead
Queen Adreena
Alice in Chains

And folk in general, but I don't know who I got that from.
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Old 07.07.2008, 11:58 AM   #37
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i forgot PIL and early half japanese

and a shitload of non musical influences.
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Old 07.07.2008, 01:20 PM   #38
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One thing that has influenced me a lot in my older age is going on holiday and actually engaging with the locals, as opposed to being "fuckwit on tour". It's made me think a lot about, y'know, stuff.
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I know what you mean. But remember: while to you, mixing with the locals is a liberating experience, to the locals you're still a "fuckwit on tour".
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I know what you mean. But remember: while to you, mixing with the locals is a liberating experience, to the locals you're still a "fuckwit on tour".

Oh aye, I don't go in for this "I bonded so well with the locals, man" gap-year style tosh.
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