logistical question for Zappa collectors? - Page 2

krastian · 08.20.2008, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions

to clarify, yr saying Mothers under Z and then all in chronological?

Yep, everything.

"Help, I'm a cop!"

Semperet · 08.20.2008, 03:47 PM

They all go under Zappa down my way, and are arranged in numerical order of Rykodisc catalog number. After that they're roughly chronological.

gmku · 08.20.2008, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions

Stores tend to just put the Mothers albums in the Zappa section. In your personal collection to you keep them under M for Mothers or Z for Zappa?

And please, no "I keep them under C for Crap" replies or whatever, because frankly, that's just too easy and won't be considered witty or awesome.

Tell me first of all how resolving this will dramatically improve your life or make the world a better place for humanity.

Derek · 08.20.2008, 05:15 PM

I don't put my collection into any sort of order, too much work.

SuperCreep · 08.20.2008, 08:24 PM

I have all of my Zappa CD's filed under F and in chronological order.

atsonicpark · 08.20.2008, 08:36 PM

I had this problem with Frank Black and the Catholics.

As a solution, I just threw all those CD's away.

gmku · 08.20.2008, 08:43 PM

Same here for The Rolling Stones. File under T for The, R for Rolling, S for Stones, or F for Fucking Cool Shit.

viewtiful_alan · 08.20.2008, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Semperet

They all go under Zappa down my way, and are arranged in numerical order of Rykodisc catalog number. After that they're roughly chronological.

What this man says is also exactly how I do it.

GrungeMonkey · 08.21.2008, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark

I had this problem with Frank Black and the Catholics.

As a solution, I just threw all those CD's away.

haha

Death & the Maiden · 08.21.2008, 05:12 AM

All my music's ordered alphabetically. I used to have trouble with this kind of thing, I didn't know whether I should arrange albums chronologically or alphabetically, eventually I went for the latter. I didn't know if I should put my Syd Barrett stuff with Pink Floyd, but I decided he was good enough to be filed by himself.
If the name on the album is Frank Zappa & the Mothers of Invention, then it should just go under Z.
By the way, I have Ciccone Youth under C.

noisereductions · 08.21.2008, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by gmku

Tell me first of all how resolving this will dramatically improve your life or make the world a better place for humanity.

Good point. I should probably stop discussing music-related things on a music-related message board. You just saved me time!

gmku · 08.21.2008, 07:15 AM

Ha, ha, no, no, it just seems a little, well, overly obsessive. I mean, does it make any difference?

noisereductions · 08.21.2008, 07:24 AM

To me it does, yes. And OF COURSE it's overly obsessive. I surely will not deny that. But yeah, little things about the arrangement of my music collection will really bug me sometimes. THat's why I was curious what other collectors did in such a situation.

Putting Mothers albums under M, is "right" in the sense that THAT's how the band actually wanted those albums to be considered (ie: as Mothers albums, NOT Zappa albums... which is especially obvious when they were Mothers albums released AFTER the band broke up). But at the same time, filing the Mothers albums under Z (considering them as FRANK ZAPPA AND THE MOTHERS) means that all Zappa will remain together so that when I'm in the mood, I can easily look thru one little section.

And really, I just used Zappa as an example. We could be talking about Kool Keith's, MF Doom's or Robert Pollard's hundreds of alter-egos. We could be talking about Bjork/Sugarcubes, Ryan Adams/Whiskeytown/The Finger, 2Pac/Tupac Shakur/Makavelli/Thug Life, or any other band artist who's had one-offs, side-projects, name changes, etc.

gmku · 08.21.2008, 07:28 AM

I tend to just go with what's on the jacket sleeve/LP spine. If it says "Mothers" instead of "Frank Zappa and the Mothers", for example, it would go in the M section.

I alphabetize by the first letter of the first word in a band's name disregarding articles (e.g., The Beatles go in the B section), but individuals usually by the last name (e.g., John Lennon in the L section).

I'm guessing this is what most of us do.

noisereductions · 08.21.2008, 07:35 AM

Actually that's exactly how I tend to do it. (going by the spine/cover name).

atsonicpark · 08.21.2008, 07:45 AM

....

Man, "Valley girl" is a shitty song, eh? They play that at work all the time. Didn't even realize it was Zappa until I looked it up online.

noisereductions · 08.21.2008, 07:47 AM

You dont like it? I think it's pretty hilarious. I actually just picked up SHIP ARRIVING TOO LATE last week.

noisereductions · 08.21.2008, 07:52 AM

And where do you work that would play FZ?

atsonicpark · 08.21.2008, 08:01 AM

A grocery store.

"Valley Girl" was apparently a really popular song, in fact it Zappa's most popular.

atsonicpark · 08.21.2008, 08:02 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valley_Girl_(song)

# 32 on the top 40 singles.

So, it's not too bizarre that they'd play that song.

08.20.2008, 03:47 PM	#22
Semperet little trouble girl Join Date: May 2008 Location: Between thought and expression Posts: 71	They all go under Zappa down my way, and are arranged in numerical order of Rykodisc catalog number. After that they're roughly chronological.
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Derek invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,095	I don't put my collection into any sort of order, too much work.
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SuperCreep expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: brooklyn Posts: 2,281	I have all of my Zappa CD's filed under F and in chronological order. __________________
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08.20.2008, 08:36 PM	#26
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	I had this problem with Frank Black and the Catholics. As a solution, I just threw all those CD's away. __________________
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08.20.2008, 08:43 PM	#27
gmku invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oxford, England Posts: 15,225	Same here for The Rolling Stones. File under T for The, R for Rolling, S for Stones, or F for Fucking Cool Shit. __________________ Ever notice how this place just basically, well, sucks.
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08.21.2008, 05:12 AM	#30
Death & the Maiden expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 2,036	All my music's ordered alphabetically. I used to have trouble with this kind of thing, I didn't know whether I should arrange albums chronologically or alphabetically, eventually I went for the latter. I didn't know if I should put my Syd Barrett stuff with Pink Floyd, but I decided he was good enough to be filed by himself. If the name on the album is Frank Zappa & the Mothers of Invention, then it should just go under Z. By the way, I have Ciccone Youth under C. __________________ www.myspace.com/ghostofanidealwife
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08.21.2008, 07:15 AM	#32
gmku invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oxford, England Posts: 15,225	Ha, ha, no, no, it just seems a little, well, overly obsessive. I mean, does it make any difference? __________________ Ever notice how this place just basically, well, sucks.
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08.21.2008, 07:24 AM	#33
noisereductions invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England, USA Posts: 16,210	To me it does, yes. And OF COURSE it's overly obsessive. I surely will not deny that. But yeah, little things about the arrangement of my music collection will really bug me sometimes. THat's why I was curious what other collectors did in such a situation. Putting Mothers albums under M, is "right" in the sense that THAT's how the band actually wanted those albums to be considered (ie: as Mothers albums, NOT Zappa albums... which is especially obvious when they were Mothers albums released AFTER the band broke up). But at the same time, filing the Mothers albums under Z (considering them as FRANK ZAPPA AND THE MOTHERS) means that all Zappa will remain together so that when I'm in the mood, I can easily look thru one little section. And really, I just used Zappa as an example. We could be talking about Kool Keith's, MF Doom's or Robert Pollard's hundreds of alter-egos. We could be talking about Bjork/Sugarcubes, Ryan Adams/Whiskeytown/The Finger, 2Pac/Tupac Shakur/Makavelli/Thug Life, or any other band artist who's had one-offs, side-projects, name changes, etc.
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08.21.2008, 07:28 AM	#34
gmku invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oxford, England Posts: 15,225	I tend to just go with what's on the jacket sleeve/LP spine. If it says "Mothers" instead of "Frank Zappa and the Mothers", for example, it would go in the M section. I alphabetize by the first letter of the first word in a band's name disregarding articles (e.g., The Beatles go in the B section), but individuals usually by the last name (e.g., John Lennon in the L section). I'm guessing this is what most of us do. __________________ Ever notice how this place just basically, well, sucks.
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08.21.2008, 07:35 AM	#35
noisereductions invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England, USA Posts: 16,210	Actually that's exactly how I tend to do it. (going by the spine/cover name).
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08.21.2008, 07:45 AM	#36
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	.... Man, "Valley girl" is a shitty song, eh? They play that at work all the time. Didn't even realize it was Zappa until I looked it up online. __________________
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08.21.2008, 07:47 AM	#37
noisereductions invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England, USA Posts: 16,210	You dont like it? I think it's pretty hilarious. I actually just picked up SHIP ARRIVING TOO LATE last week.
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08.21.2008, 07:52 AM	#38
noisereductions invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England, USA Posts: 16,210	And where do you work that would play FZ?
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08.21.2008, 08:01 AM	#39
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	A grocery store. "Valley Girl" was apparently a really popular song, in fact it Zappa's most popular. __________________
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08.21.2008, 08:02 AM	#40
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valley_Girl_(song) # 32 on the top 40 singles. So, it's not too bizarre that they'd play that song. __________________
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