[Rob Instigator]

have you tried melotonin? It works, but you better devote 8-9 hours to sleep. and it is not for everyday use.

My motto is
"why take tylenol, when you can take tylenol PM?"

hahaha

only kinda just kidding.

sleeplessness is fucking horrible.

Hope you can get it worked out.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by tesla69

is this a brand or do you make your own. more info please! Valerian tincture hasn't helped me much.

I recently created an environmental loop on audacity of bird recordings I made, haven't tried it out yet to see if that will relax me. I used to have some 'frequency' tapes my friend Andrew Smith made that were supposed to trigger certain brainwave states, relaxation being one of them.

I should get one of those biofeedback devise that allow you to see your brainwaves on the PC, and then you learn to manipulate them through meditation so you can trigger a relaxed state.

Someday I will live in a real house where I don't have to hear the fridge kick on and off all night nor hear people coing and out of the building all night long and hear the fucking restaurant exhaust motors that shake my building.

sounds like a white noise machine could actually help you with the noise. i used to live near a railway and the only solution was to move, though.

anyway the tea i get from a local tea peddler.

http://www.nmteaco.com/Starry-Night-...nic_p_186.html

i must warn you though, it tastes a bit shit, very bitter (cuz the hops), and i drink it without sugar cuz sugar promotes wakefulness. i find that it works better than the sleepytime w/ valerian. i tend to be a night owl up till 5, but i've noticed that since i installed morning exercise + this stuff, i sleep like a child and i'm up at 7 (not super early for most people, but early enough for me).

best wishes.

[demonrail666]

Thanks so much for your help. I've decided in this instance to soldier through the day in the hope that I collapse at around midnight. I'm tired as fuck right now and it's only coming up to 7.00! So I'll see if I can manage it.

That's hardly a long term solution though so I'll definitely take on board the more realistic and practical advice offered here once the initial panic of starting teaching is out of the way.

Sincerely, thanks to you all for your advice.

Evidently a career teaching fine art hasn't equipped me with those basic life skills that would've told me cocoa is a stimulant!

[This Is Not Here]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

a career teaching fine art

Really? Wow. I really hope that to be my future career.

[This Is Not Here]

Where do you teach fine art by the way?

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by floatingslowly

I promise you, lack of (good) sleep will cause a greater incidence of dementia than Sinemet.

after 10 years of working in a sleep medicine practice, I can't recall a single person being switched off of it in favor of marijauna (which acts as a stimulant).

ps: the nazi in me wants you to know that there is no "w" in restless. just sayin'.

I sleep fine these years with my "medicine" and I wouldn't trust that Sinemet for shit.. I'd rather have nothing at all! marijuana is a bit of a stimulent, but it checks my legs and that is fine with me, the only side effects are the munchies and straight people getting on your case calling you an addict when they don't know shit about the circumstances..

[!@#$%!]

mr. demoño, another thing that i forgot to mention is that it's a good idea to save your consumption of fats for the evening, as fats help make you sleepy. so rather than have bacon for breakfast, have some (say) clotted cream in the evening. clotted cream! what the fuck is that, i'm just trying to write in a terminology useful to you. ha!

[Rob Instigator]

catch a jack just before going to bed.

that always works for me.

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

clotted cream! what the fuck is that, i'm just trying to write in a terminology useful to you. ha!

Clotted cream!!!! You've obviously based your entire vision of English life on watching Withnail and I and listening to early Genesis albums. Not in itself such a bad thing actually.

I'm off to deliberate over the decline of the empire with the local vicar.

 

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

Clotted cream!!!! You've obviously based your entire vision of English life on watching Withnail and I and listening to early Genesis albums. Not in itself such a bad thing actually.

I'm off to deliberate over the decline of the empire with the local vicar.

ha ha ha.

yeah, i kinda do-- but you guys talk a lot about it. also about the morning "fry up", and baked beans.
oh yeah, i have evidence...

for dessert at night have a piece of stilton then, with an apple. the calcium and the tryphtophane in the cheese work better than milk, and the apple is yummy and traditionally good for the nervous system (not sure if it's a myth but back home we make "apple water for the nerves", ha ha).

here a detailed linky with more stuff:
http://www.askdrsears.com/html/4/t042400.asp
looks reasonable...

[Lurker]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

Evidently a career teaching fine art

Wow, I'm impressed!

Originally Posted by demonrail666

hasn't equipped me with those basic life skills that would've told me cocoa is a stimulant!

Incase you're interested, all chocolate has caffeine in as well as theobromine, which apparently is another stimulant similar to caffeine.

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

ha ha ha.

yeah, i kinda do-- but you guys talk a lot about it. also about the morning "fry up", and baked beans.
oh yeah, i have evidence...

It's a sad fact that the great English Fry Up is becoming something of a thing of the past. Probably because most people who know how to make a good one tend to die of a heart attack before they hit 40. Nobody's around long enough to passthe tradition on. Not to mention the infuritating rise of vegetarianism upon this green and pleasant land.

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

http://www.askdrsears.com/html/4/t042400.asp
looks reasonable...

That's a great link!

Originally Posted by aloevera_biopillow2000

my advice yust be carefull with influnce from internet or tv
young peopels can get washed into a wrong kinda of future image


it's the rem-sleep that's also importand
and you don't need to worrie too much

Sound advice, especially that last line. Thanks!

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by Lurker

Incase you're interested, all chocolate has caffeine in as well as theobromine, which apparently is another stimulant similar to caffeine.

And to think that they turned this fucker into a childrens' icon ... the evil swines!

 

[Glice]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

It's a sad fact that the great English Fry Up is becoming something of a thing of the past.

This is such a fucking Londoner thing to say. Just because Dalston Kingsland doesn't have a decent cardiac hole doesn't mean the rest of the country isn't swimming in its own pigfat. I can get a sausage, bacon and black pudding buttie at work for less than a pound. Less than a pound!

[demonrail666]

carrot cruncher

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

It's a sad fact that the great English Fry Up is becoming something of a thing of the past. Probably because most people who know how to make a good one tend to die of a heart attack before they hit 40. Nobody's around long enough to passthe tradition on. Not to mention the infuritating rise of vegetarianism upon this green and pleasant land.

i hear that's how scotland avoids social security nightmares-- deep fried everything.

sorry to hear about your infuriations. vegetarianism is the credo of the Last Man. just ask nietzsche.

so, green and pleasant land, eh? i know that's william blake, but isn't the weather actually a bit shit, though? rain all the time...

agh one more thing i forgot-- get a light dimmer installed in your house so you don't have bright lights at night-- bright lights (especially the cool ones, i.e. with a preponderance of blue) tend to tell your brain that it's time to wake the fuck up. so i don't brighten up the house in the evening (that's how they get chickens to feed all 24 hours of the day, btw).

anyway, im out of here-- happy sleep dude.

[NWRA]

I've had loads of problems with sleeping - though my problems are more to do with undiagnosed stomach-pains (that make it difficult to sleep) than general sleeplessness.

Anyway I just went to the doctors and got powerful sleeping pills - the kind Hollywood celebrities used to overdose on! Them and a cup of tea do the trick... though they're so effective it's sometimes hard to wake-up after taking them, so I have the dilemma of 'I need to be awake at 9am for something important - so do I take the pills and possibly sleep over that time, or do I not take them, get no sleep - but I'll definitely be awake for 9am?'

Insomnia is this: rubbish.

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by NWRA

so I have the dilemma of 'I need to be awake at 9am for something important - so do I take the pills and possibly sleep over that time, or do I not take them, get no sleep - but I'll definitely be awake for 9am?'

Call me old fashioned but wouldn't a humble alarm clock sort out any potential problems in that department?

[pokkeherrie]

drink a whole bottle of wine every night before going to bed. end of sleep problems.

[Glice]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

carrot cruncher

Yoghurt Weaver.