The Eternal Stream 192kb?? - Page 2

hevusa · 04.29.2009, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonic Youth 37

Low-bitrate=whet appetite. Chrissake's we're hearing the album almost 2 months in advance.
High-bitrate= "Oh I've got this lossless or 320 stream, I can just line-in/line-out it to record, then either cancel my preorder or sell it for $$$ when it gets here because I already have what I need...a nice rip."

The whole point of the steam is that YOU HAVE ALREADY PURCHASED IT.

FUCKTARD.

Sonic Youth 37 · 04.29.2009, 01:27 AM

Yeah, that's why I'm not pissed about bitrate. Hell, I wouldn't give a damn if it was 64 and in Mono because in 2 months time I can rip it in FLAC and listen to it in all it's uncompressed glory. It's not like it was recorded and mastered to 128. I still would have preordered without the stream, too.

And yeah, I'd be pissed if they did a NIN free release and it was only available in 128 or 160, but that's not the deal here. The stream is just a teaser.

hevusa · 04.29.2009, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonic Youth 37

Yeah, that's why I'm not pissed about bitrate. Hell, I wouldn't give a damn if it was 64 and in Mono because in 2 months time I can rip it in FLAC and listen to it in all it's uncompressed glory. It's not like it was recorded and mastered to 128. I still would have preordered without the stream, too.

And yeah, I'm be pissed if they did a NIN free release and it was only available in 128 or 160, but that's not the deal here. The stream is just a teaser.

64 mono?? really???

dionysusundone · 04.29.2009, 01:34 AM

What the fuck's with all the haters today? Fucking delusional ass shit.

summer · 04.29.2009, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by hevusa

The whole point of the steam is that YOU HAVE ALREADY PURCHASED IT.

FUCKTARD.

Um no no no no.
The whole point of the stream is to give you a look-see into what you will eventually own come June 6. If it's 128, fine, because, guess what, it isn't the true product, and never was intended to be, and if you expect that, then you are wildly misinformed.

Sonic Youth 37 · 04.29.2009, 01:36 AM

What's next? Are you going to tell me you feel ripped off or let down because "Shaking Hell" was mastered and mixed from a cassette source?

SpectralJulianIsNotDead · 04.29.2009, 01:46 AM

I'd like to see the look on Hevusa's face listening to Guided By Voices or Sebadoh.

atsonicpark · 04.29.2009, 02:03 AM

I'd like to see the look on his face when he gets banned because people are reporting him for being rude to everyone for no reason.

nicfit · 04.29.2009, 02:05 AM

you guys are totally missing the point.
This is a "streaming preview" of the album.
A TOTALLY different thing form a downloadable version.
It's like "here, have a taste. Be prepared to hear lots of subtle things and better sounds when you get the actual thing".
It's not like "here, have a lame digital copy".
Needless to say, this preview should be "just" for those who ordered copies of the actual thing, so what's the point in complaining about the quality of something you'll get in all its glory on the actual release date (which, incidentally

, IS the day people are supposed to hear it in full quality anyway) ??
You guys are getting too used to get the pappa pronta.

atsonicpark · 04.29.2009, 02:06 AM

I don't think anyone missed the point. Except the guy who made this thread.

In all seriousness, what a stupid thing to bitch about.

nicfit · 04.29.2009, 02:06 AM

the fuck, I'm too slow to type when I have a smile on my face.
great morning.

adam, it's not always stupid to bitch about something (like, if I paid for a digital copy aaand the digital copy is of lame quality, then bitching would be sensed, but it's not the case).

_slavo_ · 04.29.2009, 02:09 AM

I just gave my first neg rep ever.
good morning to you all

atsonicpark · 04.29.2009, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by nicfit

adam, it's not always stupid to bitch about something (like, if I paid for a digital copy aaand the digital copy is of lame quality, then bitching would be sensed, but it's not the case).

True. But that's not what we're talking about.

Hey Slavo! I gave my 5th neg rep ever!!

dionysusundone · 04.29.2009, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by _slavo_

I just gave my first neg rep ever.
good morning to you all

Me too. Rock on.

nicfit · 04.29.2009, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark

True. But that's not what we're talking about.

True. That's what I said ha ha.
hi slavo!
hi dionysus, happy belated birthday!

andrei · 04.29.2009, 02:37 AM

I kinda understand Hevusa's point, tho he expressed it kind of aggressively.
This streaming thing is not quite a good thing in my opinion. For two months people will be stuck with this shity copy. They will accomodate with it and have no interest in the proper version when they will get it. (next time there will be zero interest for the actual copy, since the last one gathers dust on some shelve) Labels will also sense that (already did) and will have more interest in shity streams than actual copies, since is cheaper and they will make more money.

andrei · 04.29.2009, 02:40 AM

Low is low on any system, and analog is not the same thing with 128 Kbps mp3

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Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead

No no no

On lower quality systems the difference between low quality and high quality recordings is much more apparent, because low quality recordings tend to distort on such systems.

But then again I have high quality speakers and a nice amp with a 7 band EQ that I have tweaked to a nice mid-boost that makes virtually everything I listen to sound good.

Anyways. . . do you remember these?

atsonicpark · 04.29.2009, 02:41 AM

I know this might seem bizarre in this day and age, but not everyone has a T3 connection. Also, in the interest of bandwidth (which costs them money!), it totally makes sense to have it ripped in 128... it still sounds FINE (remember a time when 128 was considered "cd quality"? Then it was 192. Now, 320 isn't even considered "cd quality" by most people!), they don't have to use as much bandwidth since the files are smaller, and people who are on slower connections can stream the songs at a decent speeds.
Makes perfect sense to me.

andrei · 04.29.2009, 02:43 AM

... and Sebadoh doesn't record their albums in mp3 and then press them on vinyl.

andrei · 04.29.2009, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark

I know this might seem bizarre in this day and age, but not everyone has a T3 connection. Also, in the interest of bandwidth (which costs them money!), it totally makes sense to have it ripped in 128... it still sounds FINE (remember a time when 128 was considered "cd quality"? Then it was 192. Now, 320 isn't even considered "cd quality" by most people!), they don't have to use as much bandwidth since the files are smaller, and people who are on slower connections can stream the songs at a decent speeds.
Makes perfect sense to me.

yeah, i know and understand perfectly your point (not so much time ago my max. download speed was 4-7 Kbps).
I just think that this streaming thing is pointless untill the standard will become at least equal with the proper release format.

04.29.2009, 01:27 AM	#22
Sonic Youth 37 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: if there is a bright spot in the universe, the farthest point from it Posts: 9,443	Yeah, that's why I'm not pissed about bitrate. Hell, I wouldn't give a damn if it was 64 and in Mono because in 2 months time I can rip it in FLAC and listen to it in all it's uncompressed glory. It's not like it was recorded and mastered to 128. I still would have preordered without the stream, too. And yeah, I'd be pissed if they did a NIN free release and it was only available in 128 or 160, but that's not the deal here. The stream is just a teaser. __________________ "One: Where's the fife? and Two: Gimme the fife."
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04.29.2009, 01:34 AM	#24
dionysusundone the end of the ugly Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 871	What the fuck's with all the haters today? Fucking delusional ass shit. __________________ -James
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04.29.2009, 01:36 AM	#26
Sonic Youth 37 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: if there is a bright spot in the universe, the farthest point from it Posts: 9,443	What's next? Are you going to tell me you feel ripped off or let down because "Shaking Hell" was mastered and mixed from a cassette source? __________________ "One: Where's the fife? and Two: Gimme the fife."
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04.29.2009, 01:46 AM	#27
SpectralJulianIsNotDead invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,409	I'd like to see the look on Hevusa's face listening to Guided By Voices or Sebadoh.
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04.29.2009, 02:03 AM	#28
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	I'd like to see the look on his face when he gets banned because people are reporting him for being rude to everyone for no reason. __________________
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04.29.2009, 02:05 AM	#29
nicfit invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: banana boat Posts: 15,570	you guys are totally missing the point. This is a "streaming preview" of the album. A TOTALLY different thing form a downloadable version. It's like "here, have a taste. Be prepared to hear lots of subtle things and better sounds when you get the actual thing". It's not like "here, have a lame digital copy". Needless to say, this preview should be "just" for those who ordered copies of the actual thing, so what's the point in complaining about the quality of something you'll get in all its glory on the actual release date (which, incidentally , IS the day people are supposed to hear it in full quality anyway) ?? You guys are getting too used to get the pappa pronta. __________________ 11:11 11-11-11 I Ascended.
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04.29.2009, 02:06 AM	#30
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	I don't think anyone missed the point. Except the guy who made this thread. In all seriousness, what a stupid thing to bitch about. __________________
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04.29.2009, 02:09 AM	#32
_slavo_ invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ðîññèÿ Posts: 10,912	I just gave my first neg rep ever. good morning to you all __________________ you're the boy that can enjoy invisibility
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04.29.2009, 02:37 AM	#36
andrei expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,686	I kinda understand Hevusa's point, tho he expressed it kind of aggressively. This streaming thing is not quite a good thing in my opinion. For two months people will be stuck with this shity copy. They will accomodate with it and have no interest in the proper version when they will get it. (next time there will be zero interest for the actual copy, since the last one gathers dust on some shelve) Labels will also sense that (already did) and will have more interest in shity streams than actual copies, since is cheaper and they will make more money.
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04.29.2009, 02:41 AM	#38
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	I know this might seem bizarre in this day and age, but not everyone has a T3 connection. Also, in the interest of bandwidth (which costs them money!), it totally makes sense to have it ripped in 128... it still sounds FINE (remember a time when 128 was considered "cd quality"? Then it was 192. Now, 320 isn't even considered "cd quality" by most people!), they don't have to use as much bandwidth since the files are smaller, and people who are on slower connections can stream the songs at a decent speeds. Makes perfect sense to me. __________________
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04.29.2009, 02:43 AM	#39
andrei expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,686	... and Sebadoh doesn't record their albums in mp3 and then press them on vinyl.
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