Am I the only person who doesnt think Sister is that good? - Page 2

greedrex · 11.06.2009, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by the ikara cult

Its never grown on me in the way that A Thousand Leaves or Washing Machine have.

I can relate to this, yes.

greedrex · 11.06.2009, 05:08 PM

It's totally relevant to replace this into its context. Releasing this in 1987 was pretty much futuristic at the time.

Rob Instigator · 11.06.2009, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by the ikara cult

see, that sort of explaination means nothing to me. Bad Moon Rising and Evol - Daydream Nation and Goo. Inconceivably magnificent pieces of work. Sister just stands in the middle and doesnt stand up to those high water marks.

I wasn't trying to explain why YOU should like it, just why it is in high regard by so many people.

the ikara cult · 11.06.2009, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

I wasn't trying to explain why YOU should like it, just why it is in high regard by so many people.

I was taking that as a given, perhaps i didnt make that clear.
Still, nice to have a bit of controversy innit?

Rob Instigator · 11.06.2009, 05:22 PM

Pacific Coast Highway is perfect

Beauty Lies In The Eye is one of the greatest Kim Gordon seether slow build crescendo songs they have

Pipeline Kill Time is the motherfucking SHIT. I don't understand how you cannot shudder and bliss out when he whispers "we should kill time" with what sounds like an ocean of guitars softly crashing on a beach behind him

Catholic Block gets my blood pumping like few songs do.

I am biased though, since this and daydream nation are my favorite albums ever by anyone/

Rob Instigator · 11.06.2009, 05:23 PM

gotta love a good dustup over LP's man!!!

Count Mecha · 11.06.2009, 05:23 PM

I'm down with Sister. But it's definitely not one of my preferred sonic albums. The thing that really kills that record for me is the way the drums sound. They just sound really lousy. With the exception of that one moment in Pipeline/Killtime where Steve does that brief disjointed bash and ends it with those two reverberated snare flams. I think it's around the minute marker, that part is bad. ass.

But because of that, that album doesn't really have the same energy to me that alot of the others do. But I'm cool with it, love Catholic Block, Stereo Sanctity, PCH, good album. But they have alot of better ones.

the ikara cult · 11.06.2009, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

Pacific Coast Highway is perfect

Beauty Lies In The Eye is one of the greatest Kim Gordon seether slow build crescendo songs they have

Pipeline Kill Time is the motherfucking SHIT. I don't understand how you cannot shudder and bliss out when he whispers "we should kill time" with what sounds like an ocean of guitars softly crashing on a beach behind him

Catholic Block gets my blood pumping like few songs do.

I am biased though, since this and daydream nation are my favorite albums ever by anyone/

Indeed, Catholic Block and Beauty Lies im entirely with you. Pipelines ok, its nothing compared to something like Hoarfrost or Karen Koltrane though

Rob Instigator · 11.06.2009, 05:41 PM

hoarfrost is dope indeed.

the ikara cult · 11.06.2009, 05:43 PM

noones agreed with me yet... i lie with baited breath

The Earl Of Slander · 11.06.2009, 06:05 PM

Well I kind of agreed with you. There are only like 3-5 SY albums that I like less than Sister. With that in mind, I've just put it back on to try again to click. Loving it so far, but that's just because Schizophrenia is still playing...

mysonichaircut · 11.06.2009, 06:06 PM

this is ridiculous. sister is a masterpiece, and has not a single weak song on it. and they all fit together. perfect.

atsonicpark · 11.06.2009, 08:17 PM

Amazing album, probably their best aside from Confusion...

Shitty production but who cares? The songs are mindblowing.

Count Mecha · 11.06.2009, 08:28 PM

Schizophrenia is SO much better on YPB.

samuel · 11.06.2009, 08:30 PM

Sister is my favorite of the '80s. The way you feel about Sister is the way I feel about Daydream Nation, but not as extreme. Aside from The Sprawl, 'Cross the Breeze, and Rain King, all the other songs are just okay for me.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous · 11.06.2009, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by the ikara cult

Ive always had a problem with Sister, i dont know if its because the first time i listened to it i was on the tube with a malfunctioning CD player and cheap headphones, but i think alot of the songs on there - Schizophrenia, White Kross, Tuff Gnarl - are incredibly overrated. Catholic Block, Beauty Lies and Cotton Crown are fantastic tunes, but its really not remarkable as a collection of songs beyond that in ones humble opinion

Am I alone?

its not that Schizo, White Kross and Tuff Gnarl are overrated, rather that their album versions are nothing compared to the live versions. All of those tunes make for fantastic shows, and are always impressive, but truly the album versions are lackluster..

Magic Wheel Memory · 11.06.2009, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by the ikara cult

Am I alone?

Are you sure you're not the devil?

cagedbird · 11.07.2009, 12:01 AM

The time it came out was a time of massive boredom. It is fresh for its time. As a SY piece it looks like it was thrown together with not a lot of thought. The track programming starts strong with Schizophrenia but doesnt finish strong. Lots of good stuff in between. I am surprised no one has mentioned Kotton Krown, masterpiece. Maybe I like it because of the T and K singing or because they name check NYC...

the ikara cult · 11.07.2009, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Magic Wheel Memory

Are you sure you're not the devil?

now that you mention it...

I do have Hold That Tiger and 1991 The Year that punk broke, the performances on both of those do supersede Sister, Tuff Gnarl on Hold That Tiger is particularly good.

Generally my point still stands

cagedbird · 11.07.2009, 12:16 AM

your original point refers to the sound quality on the apparatus you were using. maybe you need to upgrade. on the other hand, sister has been canonized because of its lo-fi recording levels. i say, enjoy the warm fuzziness if you can.

11.06.2009, 05:08 PM	#22
greedrex invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: in yr fotobukit Posts: 6,588	It's totally relevant to replace this into its context. Releasing this in 1987 was pretty much futuristic at the time. __________________ Greed Recordings bandcamp ~The Rex~, stalkin' yr shit since 2008.
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11.06.2009, 05:22 PM	#25
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,991	Pacific Coast Highway is perfect Beauty Lies In The Eye is one of the greatest Kim Gordon seether slow build crescendo songs they have Pipeline Kill Time is the motherfucking SHIT. I don't understand how you cannot shudder and bliss out when he whispers "we should kill time" with what sounds like an ocean of guitars softly crashing on a beach behind him Catholic Block gets my blood pumping like few songs do. I am biased though, since this and daydream nation are my favorite albums ever by anyone/ __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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11.06.2009, 05:23 PM	#26
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,991	gotta love a good dustup over LP's man!!! __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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11.06.2009, 05:23 PM	#27
Count Mecha 100% Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Ky Posts: 749	I'm down with Sister. But it's definitely not one of my preferred sonic albums. The thing that really kills that record for me is the way the drums sound. They just sound really lousy. With the exception of that one moment in Pipeline/Killtime where Steve does that brief disjointed bash and ends it with those two reverberated snare flams. I think it's around the minute marker, that part is bad. ass. But because of that, that album doesn't really have the same energy to me that alot of the others do. But I'm cool with it, love Catholic Block, Stereo Sanctity, PCH, good album. But they have alot of better ones. __________________
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11.06.2009, 05:41 PM	#29
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,991	hoarfrost is dope indeed. __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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11.06.2009, 05:43 PM	#30
the ikara cult invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: London sink Posts: 4,576	noones agreed with me yet... i lie with baited breath __________________ "It is absolutely ridiculous, they are behaving like a cult" - The Vatican
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11.06.2009, 06:05 PM	#31
The Earl Of Slander the end of the ugly Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,156	Well I kind of agreed with you. There are only like 3-5 SY albums that I like less than Sister. With that in mind, I've just put it back on to try again to click. Loving it so far, but that's just because Schizophrenia is still playing... __________________ The toothaches got worse, she dreamed of disembodied voices from whose malignance there was no appeal, the soft dusk of mirrors out of which something was about to walk, and empty rooms that waited for her. Your gynaecologist has no test for what she was pregnant with.
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11.06.2009, 06:06 PM	#32
mysonichaircut children of satan Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 309	this is ridiculous. sister is a masterpiece, and has not a single weak song on it. and they all fit together. perfect.
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11.06.2009, 08:17 PM	#33
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	Amazing album, probably their best aside from Confusion... Shitty production but who cares? The songs are mindblowing. __________________
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11.06.2009, 08:28 PM	#34
Count Mecha 100% Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Ky Posts: 749	Schizophrenia is SO much better on YPB. __________________
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11.06.2009, 08:30 PM	#35
samuel the end of the ugly Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Baltimore Posts: 1,175	Sister is my favorite of the '80s. The way you feel about Sister is the way I feel about Daydream Nation, but not as extreme. Aside from The Sprawl, 'Cross the Breeze, and Rain King, all the other songs are just okay for me. __________________ samueldahle.bandcamp.com
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11.07.2009, 12:01 AM	#38
cagedbird the destroyed room Join Date: May 2006 Location: Mid-Manhattan Library Posts: 567	The time it came out was a time of massive boredom. It is fresh for its time. As a SY piece it looks like it was thrown together with not a lot of thought. The track programming starts strong with Schizophrenia but doesnt finish strong. Lots of good stuff in between. I am surprised no one has mentioned Kotton Krown, masterpiece. Maybe I like it because of the T and K singing or because they name check NYC...
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11.07.2009, 12:16 AM	#40
cagedbird the destroyed room Join Date: May 2006 Location: Mid-Manhattan Library Posts: 567	your original point refers to the sound quality on the apparatus you were using. maybe you need to upgrade. on the other hand, sister has been canonized because of its lo-fi recording levels. i say, enjoy the warm fuzziness if you can.
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