MAGNET magazine picks Sonic Youth's most overrated and underrated songs - Page 2

SuperCreep · 11.19.2009, 04:38 PM

Wish Fulfillment is one of Lee's best songs, probably only bettered by Mote.

Jeremy · 11.19.2009, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperCreep

Wish Fulfillment is one of Lee's best songs, probably only bettered by Mote.

Agreed, mostly. WF is a glorious song. Hard to pick a favorite though. Rain King unfortunately never gets talked about, yet is brilliant.

I think one of the most underrated SY songs is New Hampshire. Awesome stuff in that one!

~Jeremy~

Rob Instigator · 11.19.2009, 05:33 PM

^ Jeremy's spoken....

EVOLghost · 11.19.2009, 05:41 PM

Ps. paper cup exit totally owns Wish Fulfillment.

Rob Instigator · 11.19.2009, 05:47 PM

U so crazee

nicfit · 11.19.2009, 05:51 PM

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coming down
say I love this
now now now
death valley 69

Sadie I love it....

jennthebenn · 11.19.2009, 05:52 PM

Hoarfrost, Mote, Rain King.

The LR trilogy of awesome.

Behold it.

nicfit · 11.19.2009, 05:54 PM

aaaaaaaaaaah, last weekend I went see a gig and before the band started playing the deejay put on hoarfrost....I almost cried.

And yes, Rain King, it's not a coincidence I decided to videotape that particular song when I went to the ddn revival tour haha.

Toilet & Bowels · 11.19.2009, 07:32 PM

articles like this that present some sort of supposed objectivity really get on my tits, sonic youth only have about 6 songs that ever get mentioned by people outside of the hardcore SY fanbase: teenage riot, kool thing, diamond sea, expressway to yr skull, bull in the haether, & maybe also sugar kane or dity boots. so saying that any other of their songs are overrated, or even just rated is kind of bullshit.
and how and how do you pick their most underrated songs, they have like a hundred songs that never get talked about by anyone, how is brave men run (a brilliant song) more underrated than say green light (an equally brilliant song)?
journalists will write any old crap just to fill up space.

CHOUT · 11.19.2009, 08:58 PM

these articles are silly, but interesting.
i'd vote disappearer and catholic block two of the most underrated, if I could.

Rob Instigator · 11.19.2009, 10:31 PM

<---stands correected nicfits!

I think macbeth is fucking great and not mentioned enough.

deflinus · 11.19.2009, 10:45 PM

stones and hoarfrost are so fucking underrated it's almost criminal

Magic Wheel Memory · 11.19.2009, 11:06 PM

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This sort of stuff is so arbitrary, anyway...

The quality of a song is arbitrary, but how highly it is "rated" is much less subject to opinion.

Who the hell ever talks about Self Obsessed and Sexxee? How can this writer explain that song being "rated" at all?

Side Note: I really like Self-Obessed and Sexxee! But I'm sure the writer didn't know that.

atsonicpark · 11.20.2009, 12:16 AM

overrated: kool thing
underrated: terry's carot

dazedcola · 11.21.2009, 03:47 PM

Overrated:

Teenage Riot ( great song but it gets this status bc this is basically the token sy song to know)

Bull In The Heather (alright song but kinda sad this is their highest charting single has none of the sy disonnance they're so known for)

Incinerate (when this song came out it scared me....that theyd settle into this light pop clean guitar sound for the rest of their career, feedback is so passe)

Superstar ( Falls into the annoying category of people who want to get into SY but don't like the noise. Thats like saying I want ice cream but I dont want something cold. They've done far better covers (Within You, Without You , hallowed be thy name) This always just came off as a cutesy cover to me)

Little Trouble Girl (A throwback to girl groups from the sixties but kind of a boring song too. Ever wonder what a Kim Gordon commercial album would have sounded like? It's this. My least fav song on one of my fav SY albums, this should not have got its own video. Wheres the love for "Becuz" or "Junkie's Promise")

Underrated:

Inhuman (From the very beginning of this song with those weird whomp crashes, its like raw power thats sure to come running to you. It used to be in setlists in the 80s but was eventually dropped. No one mentions this song when talking about Confusion is Sex, but they should)

Saucer-Like (Theory: The more lee songs on a record the better the record. Example WM=3, EJSTNS=0. Whether you agree with that or not theres no denying that lees song are always overlooked in the bands catalog. He has so many but even among lee favs this one isnt isnt discussed as much. How about that awesome beginning where it just builds before he throws in those wonderful lyrics of swirling cities of angels. It feels like a euphoric lucid dream with lee guiding you around the streets while you share a j)

Catholic Block (Loved this song from the second they make the bends on the gutar work with the drumbeat. Its like the perfect SY song going from A-Z in the course of the song with the greatest of ease, speeding along feroricously and ending in groaning screaming guitars. A full on guitar orgasm)

Titanium Expose (The second best SY album closer of the 90s (Diamond sea will alwyas be the winner). After holding in much of their noise for Goo they let it all hang out with this one. Sounding more like the sdtrk to a riot than teenage riot where kids flip cars over and beat businessman with their own briefcases. I say play this next time at a political rally and watch peoples unrealized anger turn to violence)

Helen Lundberg (Recorded at their last session at Murray Street and heard by a minority of SY fans this song is a treasure. Willfully noisy tribute that was somehow left off of Rather Ripped>track it down now if you havent discvovered this gem)

GravitySlips · 11.21.2009, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

articles like this that present some sort of supposed objectivity really get on my tits, sonic youth only have about 6 songs that ever get mentioned by people outside of the hardcore SY fanbase: teenage riot, kool thing, diamond sea, expressway to yr skull, bull in the haether, & maybe also sugar kane or dity boots. so saying that any other of their songs are overrated, or even just rated is kind of bullshit.
and how and how do you pick their most underrated songs, they have like a hundred songs that never get talked about by anyone, how is brave men run (a brilliant song) more underrated than say green light (an equally brilliant song)?
journalists will write any old crap just to fill up space.

#

fully agree with this.

Dead-Air · 11.21.2009, 06:13 PM

The only thing they got right on the whole set of lists is "Kool Thing" and that's not because it's a bad song, just that it is the only SY song that many people know. "Bull in the Heather" should have been on the overrated list for the same reason if there really were any rationale for creating these lists. I agree with T&B that there isn't though.

Putting "Brother James" and "Death Valley '69" as overrated just indicates that the writer doesn't like a particular side of the band. "The Diamond Sea" being on the underrated list when it is one of their better known songs indicates the side of their sound the author does prefer. No objectivity to the article to be seen.

Underrated list contains nothing from the SYRs, nothing from Kill Yr. Idols, nor even Confusion Is Sex, Bad Moon Rising or from the 1st record. Yet does contain something from DDN, the album that is in the Library of Congress. Clearly the title of the article should have been "5 Sonic Youth Songs I Like and 5 I'm Not So Wild About".

nancykitten · 11.23.2009, 06:37 PM

I love how Brother James is overrated and fucking Swimsuit Issue is underrated.

However, I'm tired of every man, woman and child talking about the legendary Self Obsessed and Sexee. Glad that its legend has been tarnished~

Jeremy · 11.23.2009, 11:07 PM

I agree, Self Obsessed and Sexee is a horrid song. I also don't see the love around here for Starfield Road, or that matter really anything off of Experimental Jet Set Trash and No Star.

~Jeremy~

pbradley · 11.24.2009, 07:26 AM

All songs are adequately rated for all time everywhere.

There is no over/under.

11.19.2009, 04:38 PM	#21
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11.19.2009, 05:33 PM	#23
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EVOLghost invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: cybatraz! Posts: 11,537	Ps. paper cup exit totally owns Wish Fulfillment.
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Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,991	U so crazee __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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11.19.2009, 05:52 PM	#27
jennthebenn expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 2,261	Hoarfrost, Mote, Rain King. The LR trilogy of awesome. Behold it. __________________ http://jennthebenn.tumblr.com/
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11.19.2009, 05:54 PM	#28
nicfit invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: banana boat Posts: 15,570	aaaaaaaaaaah, last weekend I went see a gig and before the band started playing the deejay put on hoarfrost....I almost cried. And yes, Rain King, it's not a coincidence I decided to videotape that particular song when I went to the ddn revival tour haha. __________________ 11:11 11-11-11 I Ascended.
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11.19.2009, 07:32 PM	#29
Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,282	articles like this that present some sort of supposed objectivity really get on my tits, sonic youth only have about 6 songs that ever get mentioned by people outside of the hardcore SY fanbase: teenage riot, kool thing, diamond sea, expressway to yr skull, bull in the haether, & maybe also sugar kane or dity boots. so saying that any other of their songs are overrated, or even just rated is kind of bullshit. and how and how do you pick their most underrated songs, they have like a hundred songs that never get talked about by anyone, how is brave men run (a brilliant song) more underrated than say green light (an equally brilliant song)? journalists will write any old crap just to fill up space.
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11.19.2009, 08:58 PM	#30
CHOUT invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Minneapolis MN Posts: 3,128	these articles are silly, but interesting. i'd vote disappearer and catholic block two of the most underrated, if I could. __________________ Chout's rare Sonic Youth vids: http://youtube.com/SONICchout
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11.19.2009, 10:31 PM	#31
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,991	<---stands correected nicfits! I think macbeth is fucking great and not mentioned enough. __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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11.19.2009, 10:45 PM	#32
deflinus expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: in the darkest part of your mind Posts: 1,737	stones and hoarfrost are so fucking underrated it's almost criminal
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11.20.2009, 12:16 AM	#34
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	overrated: kool thing underrated: terry's carot __________________
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11.21.2009, 03:47 PM	#35
dazedcola the end of the ugly Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,075	Overrated: Teenage Riot ( great song but it gets this status bc this is basically the token sy song to know) Bull In The Heather (alright song but kinda sad this is their highest charting single has none of the sy disonnance they're so known for) Incinerate (when this song came out it scared me....that theyd settle into this light pop clean guitar sound for the rest of their career, feedback is so passe) Superstar ( Falls into the annoying category of people who want to get into SY but don't like the noise. Thats like saying I want ice cream but I dont want something cold. They've done far better covers (Within You, Without You , hallowed be thy name) This always just came off as a cutesy cover to me) Little Trouble Girl (A throwback to girl groups from the sixties but kind of a boring song too. Ever wonder what a Kim Gordon commercial album would have sounded like? It's this. My least fav song on one of my fav SY albums, this should not have got its own video. Wheres the love for "Becuz" or "Junkie's Promise") Underrated: Inhuman (From the very beginning of this song with those weird whomp crashes, its like raw power thats sure to come running to you. It used to be in setlists in the 80s but was eventually dropped. No one mentions this song when talking about Confusion is Sex, but they should) Saucer-Like (Theory: The more lee songs on a record the better the record. Example WM=3, EJSTNS=0. Whether you agree with that or not theres no denying that lees song are always overlooked in the bands catalog. He has so many but even among lee favs this one isnt isnt discussed as much. How about that awesome beginning where it just builds before he throws in those wonderful lyrics of swirling cities of angels. It feels like a euphoric lucid dream with lee guiding you around the streets while you share a j) Catholic Block (Loved this song from the second they make the bends on the gutar work with the drumbeat. Its like the perfect SY song going from A-Z in the course of the song with the greatest of ease, speeding along feroricously and ending in groaning screaming guitars. A full on guitar orgasm) Titanium Expose (The second best SY album closer of the 90s (Diamond sea will alwyas be the winner). After holding in much of their noise for Goo they let it all hang out with this one. Sounding more like the sdtrk to a riot than teenage riot where kids flip cars over and beat businessman with their own briefcases. I say play this next time at a political rally and watch peoples unrealized anger turn to violence) Helen Lundberg (Recorded at their last session at Murray Street and heard by a minority of SY fans this song is a treasure. Willfully noisy tribute that was somehow left off of Rather Ripped>track it down now if you havent discvovered this gem) __________________ "I said I didnt mean to take up all your sweet time Ill give it right back one of these days If I dont meet you no more in this world then uh Ill meet ya on the next one And dont be late " -Jimi Hendrix ...And me just another dream theory, lost inside your eye "when my mind's uncertain my body decides what it will do to get through the hell of the night as I trip on the ocean that leads through your eyes well my eyes can't wait til they finally see through you"
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11.21.2009, 06:13 PM	#37
Dead-Air invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Portland OR Posts: 4,300	The only thing they got right on the whole set of lists is "Kool Thing" and that's not because it's a bad song, just that it is the only SY song that many people know. "Bull in the Heather" should have been on the overrated list for the same reason if there really were any rationale for creating these lists. I agree with T&B that there isn't though. Putting "Brother James" and "Death Valley '69" as overrated just indicates that the writer doesn't like a particular side of the band. "The Diamond Sea" being on the underrated list when it is one of their better known songs indicates the side of their sound the author does prefer. No objectivity to the article to be seen. Underrated list contains nothing from the SYRs, nothing from Kill Yr. Idols, nor even Confusion Is Sex, Bad Moon Rising or from the 1st record. Yet does contain something from DDN, the album that is in the Library of Congress. Clearly the title of the article should have been "5 Sonic Youth Songs I Like and 5 I'm Not So Wild About". __________________ FuckBook; My Band; My Radio Show; My Flickr Page; Science Fiction Message Board
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11.23.2009, 06:37 PM	#38
nancykitten children of satan Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Glasgow, UK Posts: 316	I love how Brother James is overrated and fucking Swimsuit Issue is underrated. However, I'm tired of every man, woman and child talking about the legendary Self Obsessed and Sexee. Glad that its legend has been tarnished~ __________________
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11.23.2009, 11:07 PM	#39
Jeremy 100% Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: The Batcave Posts: 833	I agree, Self Obsessed and Sexee is a horrid song. I also don't see the love around here for Starfield Road, or that matter really anything off of Experimental Jet Set Trash and No Star. ~Jeremy~ __________________
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11.24.2009, 07:26 AM	#40
pbradley invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: SoKo Posts: 10,621	All songs are adequately rated for all time everywhere. There is no over/under.
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