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Old 12.04.2009, 12:47 PM   #21
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Old 12.04.2009, 05:17 PM   #22
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^^what is that game called? I remmeber it somewhere deep in my C64 mind
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Old 12.04.2009, 05:21 PM   #23
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Old 12.04.2009, 05:23 PM   #24
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what the...? mysterious italian man?
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Old 12.04.2009, 05:26 PM   #25
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Looking back, Cyberpunk was kinda geeky.
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Old 12.04.2009, 08:57 PM   #26
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Old 12.04.2009, 09:09 PM   #27
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but will it kill the thread the way it did the genre?
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Old 12.04.2009, 09:14 PM   #28
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Old 12.04.2009, 10:43 PM   #30
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Old 12.05.2009, 12:04 PM   #31
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anybody read spook country yet? good? not? why?
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Old 12.05.2009, 02:12 PM   #32
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When I think of Cyberpunk, I think of virtual reality, which was a vision of the future which laughably hit a dead end and turned out to be a total disaster.
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Old 12.05.2009, 02:49 PM   #33
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Yeah, I read it. It's a great read. Gibson doing his cyberpunk tricks in the present world. A bit of a fake rock band back history for the protagonist that I didn't buy or particularly like, but otherwise good. If you liked Pattern Recognition, you'll like it.
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Old 12.05.2009, 02:51 PM   #34
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When I think of Cyberpunk, I think of virtual reality, which was a vision of the future which laughably hit a dead end and turned out to be a total disaster.

did it really though? certainly the gloves and helmets are laughable, but there are people all over the world spending inordinate amounts of time in virtual worlds these days. cyber happened to a degree it isn't punk anymore, it's completely mainstream.
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did it really though? certainly the gloves and helmets are laughable, but there are people all over the world spending inordinate amounts of time in virtual worlds these days. cyber happened to a degree it isn't punk anymore, it's completely mainstream.

Not quite. Those virtual worlds are seen through a screen, they're not a total immersion in a physical sense, comprende?
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Yeah, I read it. It's a great read. Gibson doing his cyberpunk tricks in the present world. A bit of a fake rock band back history for the protagonist that I didn't buy or particularly like, but otherwise good. If you liked Pattern Recognition, you'll like it.

then Ill like it! PR wasnt the best Ive read by him, but it was pretty entertaining. so I will give it a try, thanks
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Old 12.05.2009, 10:06 PM   #37
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Not quite. Those virtual worlds are seen through a screen, they're not a total immersion in a physical sense, comprende?

of course I comprende. hell, I even grok if you want to go there. that's why I noted the helmets and gloves have tanked so far (however if you watch kids playing Wii it's not exactly absent from the mainstream either...)

buuut, total immersion is not a physical thing, it's a virtual thing (i.e. the very name of the so-called experience!) and Korean kids dying from not sleeping or eating in one person shooter arcades are certainly totally immersed!
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Total immersion is a physical thing, too.

But that is speaking of Being itself.

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But that is speaking of Being itself.

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yes, but total immersion in virtual reality is not physical by definition. check with Kirkegaard on that one.
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