[demonrail666]

The Smiths meant a lot to me at the time. I can still enjoy them but they really were one of those bands that related directly to their moment and, now that moment has gone, don't really offer much.

I'd still say The Queen is Dead is a great album though.

[the ikara cult]

I dont understand people disliking Morrissey just because he can be a bit flouncey-mouncey-look-at-megladioli-y. The repetitive nature of his subject matter is a good enough reason, as well as the shocking spawn of underachieving indie lyricists he spawned. But when the Smiths do it right, like on Headmaster Ritual or Handsome Devil, they do it the best.

[loubarret]

Well he has just this high self image and playing while wearin the union jack wasn't that fine also.

To me the smiths are one of my favorite bands, I slowly grown to them. I might not be that hip or cool to like them(so many people do) but yeah, I can write 3 pages peices about their debut alone.

[Rob Instigator]

I fucking love the Smiths. I fucking love Morrisssey as well.
Probably the single greatest lyricist of the last 20 years.

I love all the smiths albums.

Louder than bombs is rather long (double album) for a smiths newbie. I would go with Queen Is Dead or Strangeways Here We Come.

They all rule. Smiths rule. The Moz rules.

(in most every song he is either making fun of someone or making fun of himself. too many people read just the surface of his lyrics and think he is just a whiney bitch)

[loubarret]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

I fucking love the Smiths. I fucking love Morrisssey as well.
Probably the single greatest lyricist of the last 20 years.

I love all the smiths albums.

Louder than bombs is rather long (double album) for a smiths newbie. I would go with Queen Is Dead or Strangeways Here We Come.

They all rule. Smiths rule. The Moz rules.

(in most every song he is either making fun of someone or making fun of himself. too many people read just the surface of his lyrics and think he is just a whiney bitch)

Oh yes rob, it is. Well louder then bombs is really the best smiths album, I mean it has all those singles which I will forever cherish

[Rob Instigator]

The Smiths were a "singles" band, which is ratrher meaningless these days.

[loubarret]

Well it makes louder then bombs my most turned album ever.

[ricechex]

Count me in on loving the Smiths too! Just really musical I think, the melodies are great, the musicians are fantastic.

[the ikara cult]

Originally Posted by loubarret

Well he has just this high self image and playing while wearin the union jack wasn't that fine also.

To me the smiths are one of my favorite bands, I slowly grown to them. I might not be that hip or cool to like them(so many people do) but yeah, I can write 3 pages peices about their debut alone.

I think the union jack thing was meant to be a bit of satire, seeing as he is the embodiment of non-assertiveness and pessimism and nationalist groups always adopt a masculine front to hide their insecurities, but i understand why it didnt come off for some people.

The self image thing applies to every musician ever, seeing as its just an outlet for the artists ego anyway

[the ikara cult]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

Probably the single greatest lyricist of the last 20 years

There are entire continents between that and the correct answer

[Rob Instigator]

who would you suggest?

[ricechex]

I would think he's one of the best anyways. Great lyrics are extremely hard to find. When you think about it 95% of bands have crap lyrics, not enough lyrics, or write extremely vague lyrics that don't mean a damn thing. Not wth Morrissey. They might all be depressing, but as i have said, he has a million ways to say something.

[the ikara cult]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

who would you suggest?

Not that i think Morrissey is bad, i just think he only nails it occasionally. People who are consistently interesting impress me more.
Mark E Smith is obviously the man when it comes to lyrics
Lee Ranaldo, underrated by all outside our little clique
Graham Lambkin/whoever writes lyrics for The Shadow Ring.
Richey Edwards

(very anglocentric i know, but excellent nonetheless)

[PAULYBEE2656]

the smits were an incredible band. the debut, meat is murder, queen is dead and to a lesser extent strangeways are excellent. morrissey solo is poor fare for certain.
im amazed at the anti smithsness here.....actually yknow, im not!

[RanaldoNecro]

I met Johnny Marr last week at a Cribs gig. Forgot to ask him if any Smiths remasters are coming out. I would start with Hatful of Hollow.

That is my favorite...

[the ikara cult]

Originally Posted by RanaldoNecro

I met Johnny Marr last week at a Cribs gig. Forgot to ask him if any Smiths remasters are coming out. I would start with Hatful of Hollow.

That is my favorite...

definitely the best one i own

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by dazedcola

I've always been repulsed by anything related to Morissey..

Anyone else get into them by accident when you realized morissey isnt an annoyingly anal prick all the time?

Im from LA, the Morissey crowd is literaly the most god-awful, guady, lame crowd in town! Plus, there are thousands of mexican grandmas crying over rosary prayers for their little Mijos for wearing eye-liner and all black from the feet up..

personally, there is some edgy guitar riffs I have heard some smiths tunes but I was turned off so much by the other musical aspects that I could not even enjoy it, despite how good I will admit those guitar licks actually are.

[static-harmony]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

Im from LA, the Morissey crowd is literaly the most god-awful, guady, lame crowd in town! Plus, there are thousands of mexican grandmas crying over rosary prayers for their little Mijos for wearing eye-liner and all black from the feet up..

personally, there is some edgy guitar riffs I have heard some smiths tunes but I was turned off so much by the other musical aspects that I could not even enjoy it, despite how good I will admit those guitar licks actually are.

My god yes I hate those fuckers.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by static-harmony

My god yes I hate those fuckers.

exactly!!! I also have to accept that my favorite lyricist (Chino from deftones) took much of his style from Morissey.. I like Chino's version better, plus if Smiths were as heavy as deftones i might be able to get into them but I abhor 80s sound unless its roots reggae

[batreleaser]

i love the smiths again. i went for a phase when i wasnt into the smiths but that was my "I only wear cut off denim jackets and leather and refuse to listen to anything that isnt black flag, royal trux, or noise" phase.