[Genteel Death]

I find them too one-dimensional and limited musically, that's it.

[Glice]

Originally Posted by Ghostchase

I agree for people to find their latest releases merely ok-ish, but to say they've been pure shit, is unfair. There are many hidden gems just waiting to be unearthed in their latest albums. Example; Folk Death 95, We're No Here, and Scotland's Shame.

Sure, cool. They were my favourite band when I was about 15. Definite overkill for me, to the point where I'm not sure if I've listened to their last couple of albums, if I in fact bought them. Part of the problem with this forum is that there's a lot of us who struggle to restrain how jaded we are towards stuff that was exciting over a decade ago. So you might want to disregard the opinions of, say, me (although, in fairness, I am fucking amazing).

[Phlegmscope]

By no means I dislike them, but their music is just rather formulaic (although I guess most rock music is, at least in their own context).
All the melodramatic piano / guitar arpeggios followed by the predictable crescendos I find pretty dull. They're pretty good at doing elevator music for the indie crowd.

That's said, MYT is pretty awesome album at times. And I can see that they're not taking themselves too seriously.

I'd like to see them live and they're coming here again in the spring, but the tickets are ridiculously expensive... Fucking adult contemporary classic rock kind of prices.

[Genteel Death]

Personally, I listen to my Neil Young and David Bowie etc records as much as newer stuff now. I have never been a fan of superficially getting into a particular musician, but some bands just don't cut it in a lasting way for me, that's all.

[Genteel Death]

The problem for me with a lot of these bands is that they are ambivalent towards the position they're in too much, and it shows in the final product. This half-arsed, indie, insecure attitude when it comes to being an artist fucks around too much for my liking.

[nicfit]

Originally Posted by Phlegmscope

the predictable crescendos I find pretty dull.

Well, the calm-noise patterns are quite obvious indeed*, but there's sooo much going on in those distorted parts that I wouldn't say they are predictable. Devil's in the details.
It's far from just high volume fuzz (?), and I do think they properly "mastered" this kind of stuff only later on in their career rather than in the first bunch of releases.
I get your point btw.
Just for the record, I do not intend to "convince" people about some overlooked goodies/overall quality in mogwai's latest output, I just do find the (legitimate) critiques a bit superficial (the "personal reasons" are excluded heh), but perhaps it's because people posting them don't want to waste too much time typing about a band they're not that interested in lately, ha ha .


I'm not sure I get what you mean in your last post, GD, but it seems to have more to do with the attitude of a band/artist than with their music.

speaking of mogwai: they always seemed to not take too seriously what they do, hell, in italy they started gigs with the national football team jerseys and "j'amme a lavurà" as background music while walking onto the stage.

speaking in general:

I guess a debate on the "enjoyability of music produced by cunts" would deserve a proper thread.
I said somewhere else that, luckily, I manage to enjoy "the music" without caring much about "the artist". If "the artist" is an interesting individual (to my eyes), better yet. If he's a cunt (and not of the good kind of cuntestry) I usually just don't care and at all and stick to the music. Could be derived also by the fact that I have not too much time to spend reading interviews etc, so I tend to form a rather non-in-depth opinion on the artists, unless I'm really interested for some reason. But even when I form a bad opinion on "the person" I still can enjoy "the music" with no particular qualms.

whuwh, say hello to mr.Off Topic post.

* even if predictable in "form", a good song remains a good song, imo.

[SYRFox]

I'm just here to say I love Mogwai and am ready to fight using various shotguns to defend them. And I am dead serious.

[hevusa]

Originally Posted by SYRFox

I'm just here to say I love Mogwai and am ready to fight using various shotguns to defend them. And I am dead serious.

thanks for letting us know you are only effective at close range.

[Genteel Death]

Originally Posted by hevusa

thanks for letting us know you are only effective at close range.

What's your favourite music? You're meant to be a musician but only post about hatred for it.

[hevusa]

Originally Posted by Genteel Death

What's your favourite music? You're meant to be a musician but only post about hatred for it.

I fucking love mogwai dude! favorite music is rock.

[SYRFox]

Originally Posted by hevusa

thanks for letting us know you are only effective at close range.

i did not say i am ONLY ready to use shotguns. this was a secret tactic so that people do not know i also own long distance missiles.

[SYRFox]

oh wait i just debunked myself

[SYRFox]

also

Originally Posted by Genteel Death

What's your favourite music? You're meant to be a musician but only post about hatred for it.

sounds like something one could ask to mark e smith

[Glice]

MES would give a better answer as well.

[SYRFox]

and kill a squirell

[narlus]

Originally Posted by Genteel Death

The problem for me with a lot of these bands is that they are ambivalent towards the position they're in too much, and it shows in the final product. This half-arsed, indie, insecure attitude when it comes to being an artist fucks around too much for my liking.

are we still talking about Mogwai here?

[Genteel Death]

Originally Posted by narlus

are we still talking about Mogwai here?

Of course not you cunt.

[narlus]

ooh.

[nicfit]

uh leaked already.

[radarmaker]

Well that's 53 minutes of my life I'll never get back. If anything, it's even more crushingly dull & predictable than expected.