[knox]

is this fucking serious?
is this guy in charge of anything?

please let me know, thanks.

[nicfit]

Hey, hevusa, are you talking about how the "SYG artists comp" should be organized or about how a "generic" compilation should?
I've a feeling you're mixing the two things a bit in here (see the bit about your submission ready to be sent and that "limits us to.." in the previous post).
Some of your posts here should go in that other thread, probably.


I find myself lovin' different comps for different reasons.
The overall quality is pretty obviously quite important, and when the tracks are good, sequencing can play a big part in the overall "feeling".
Something like the "cold waves..." comp I mentioned way too often is great, even though I think the sequencing isn't too spot on.
dunno I'm too tired, I want to read what Glice will post and nod my head for 15 secs.

[Genteel Death]

Originally Posted by hevusa

I agree too... which brings us to the next question. What format is it going to be released? CD?

If so that limits us to 70 minutes (I believe). Which brings me back to my other point; 5-6 minute cap on songs to allow for room?

song length to # of artists

8 minutes = 08 artists
7 minutes = 10 artists
6 minutes = 11 artists
5 minutes = 14 artists

the idea is mine, so at the moment I'm in charge. If it's two cds to make room for everyone, so that will be it. For as long as someone doesn't go too far with tracks that are 15 minutes in length, I don' see where the problems is. AWWRIGHT???

[SONIC GAIL]

EVERYONE LISTEN TO PORKY!!!!!!! his idea he's in charge and probably the most capable

[hevusa]

Originally Posted by Genteel Death

the idea is mine, so at the moment I'm in charge. If it's two cds to make room for everyone, so that will be it. For as long as someone doesn't go too far with tracks that are 15 minutes in length, I don' see where the problems is. AWWRIGHT???

Wouldn't it be smarter to make it one CD? Are you going to sell them to people? How is this working really?

Easiest solution is just to throw it up on a free website I suppose. No cost involved. No profit to be made.

[hevusa]

Originally Posted by knox

is this fucking serious?
is this guy in charge of anything?

Yes, I'm in charge of how much uncompressed music you can fit on one CD. I declare it 74 minutes!!!

[Toilet & Bowels]

Obviously that the person compiling has a real depth of knowledge of the music they are compiling and excellent taste.

Also with comps the effort made in compiling the music is very often reflected in the effort put into design of the whole object, i.e. sleeve design, quantity of liner notes, etc. E.g. look at the comps that come out on labels like Numero Group, Strut, Finders Keepers, etc.

[hevusa]

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

sleeve design, quantity of liner notes, etc.

Right.... but who is going to pay for all of that? And if profits are made how will that be handled?

[nicfit]

Originally Posted by hevusa

Yes, I'm in charge of how much uncompressed music you can fit on one CD. I declare it 74 minutes!!!

DUUUUDE:

Standard CDs have a diameter of 120 mm and can hold up to 80 minutes of uncompressed audio (700 MB of data).

u b lagging.

i m kidding.

Originally Posted by hevusa

Right.... but who is going to pay for all of that? And if profits are made how will that be handled?

DUUUUUUUUUDE

this thread IS NOT about the compilation of music from people of the board.

[hevusa]

Originally Posted by nicfit

DUUUUDE:

Standard CDs have a diameter of 120 mm and can hold up to 80 minutes of uncompressed audio (700 MB of data).

u b lagging.

i m kidding.

haha
True... it seems Depeche Mode pushed the limits at 81:09 with their "Evolution" release. Though anything past 74 minutes is "not recommended".

[nicfit]

Honestly, no idea.. I tend to keep my albums/comps under the 50mins mark.
check the added edit to my previous post btw, you're derailing things in here..

[Toilet & Bowels]

Originally Posted by hevusa

Right.... but who is going to pay for all of that? And if profits are made how will that be handled?

As a consumer it is not my concern

[hevusa]

Originally Posted by nicfit

DUUUUUUUUUDE

this thread IS NOT about the compilation of music from people of the board.

Right. It does bring up some good points about that comp though.

[Glice]

Right. So I'll say that I'm most interested in either diversity (if it's a primer on new or new to me bands) or consistency (as with Nuggets).

In terms of long tracks, I think it's fine to have the odd long piece; I think someone like Derek/ UUUUU wouldn't really work in a 2 minute slot. There was a great compilation from the Experimental Music from Japan stable that had a 30 minute (I think) piece at the end. The Wire tappers (which have gone downhill, but the first 3 or 4 were great) had the occasional longer piece. It's an aesthetic point, I suppose, but it's worth mentioning that if you're a songy band and can't make your point in less than 3 minutes you should probably give up (remember: you're not Sonic Youth).

[keep poppin pimples]

i listen to compilations the majority of the time,like any other release i think they're good if they feature lots of strong material....

i like it if multiple tracks show up from certain artists,alot of comps focus on a time/place and sometimes a certain performer is truly a dominant force, or on the flipside it can be good to feature an overlooked performer multiple times and stay light on others who have more easily-available or well known material

being mostly/all composed of new or rare material is definitely a selling point

[Genteel Death]

then you get comps like this. so amazing.

 

[shabbray2.0]

^^I really like the artwork of that!

[Genteel Death]

yeah the artwork is sexy

[Mortte Jousimo]

Originally Posted by Savage Clone

100% previously unreleased or otherwise unavailable material.
Gives fans of particular acts good motivation to pick up the comp and get exposed to something new they might like at the same time.

I agree!

I prefer more original albums (I listen mostly the album entities, not only some songs from the albums) than the compilations, but if I listen compilations, I like that kind of compilations that includes rare material a lot. It is usually good solution to put songs in the compilation in releasing order, but I have some compilations where the songs aren´t in original releasing order and it has also worked when there has been taste with the order.

The most important reason why I don´t have Sonic Youth´s compilations Screaming fields and Hits are for the squires is that there is so little rare material.

In various artist´s compilations I also prefer that, how rare material is. Nuggets II (4cd box) is good example of that. Most of the material is very hard to find anywhere, because there are lots of bands that has made only few singles.

[Derek]

Originally Posted by Glice

Right. So I'll say that I'm most interested in either diversity (if it's a primer on new or new to me bands) or consistency (as with Nuggets).

In terms of long tracks, I think it's fine to have the odd long piece; I think someone like Derek/ UUUUU wouldn't really work in a 2 minute slot. There was a great compilation from the Experimental Music from Japan stable that had a 30 minute (I think) piece at the end. The Wire tappers (which have gone downhill, but the first 3 or 4 were great) had the occasional longer piece. It's an aesthetic point, I suppose, but it's worth mentioning that if you're a songy band and can't make your point in less than 3 minutes you should probably give up (remember: you're not Sonic Youth).

If it came down to it I could do a short track, but the shortest I usually work with is 6 or so minutes.

Also, who votes that hevusa has NO say in this project at all? He can maybe have a short track on it, if we're being nice.