[nomadicfollower]

Nothing else really to recommend.
I may add, though, that recently I came upon an article which stated Guru Guru to be the first krautrock band. Whether this is true or not, it sparked my interest and now I'm searching for a place to begin listening. Suggestions are welcome.

[Savage Clone]

UFO is the best Guru Guru; Hinten is also very good, but less heavy. "This Is Guru Guru" has a lot of great ones too, like "Der Elektrolurch." There is also a great new live recording that has resurfaced from Essen 1970 that I can highly recommend. Great sound, great period. A lot of their stuff later on is pretty cheesy fusion stuff, but the early records rule like few others.

[Daycare Nation]

Hootie and the Blowfish

[Everyneurotic]

Originally Posted by Savage Clone

...their stuff later on is pretty cheesy fusion stuff, but the early records rule like few others.

most ended up like that, didn't they? ash ra, amon düül II, popol vu, even can.

i think guru guru are the first band to be referred to as krautrock by the german music press, and it was used as an insulting term.

[Everyneurotic]

Originally Posted by Daycare Nation

Hootie and the Blowfish

feeling funny, i gather...

[Savage Clone]

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic

most ended up like that, didn't they? ash ra, amon düül II, popol vu, even can.

i think guru guru are the first band to be referred to as krautrock by the german music press, and it was used as an insulting term.

I would say Popol Vuh and Ash Ra Tempel wound up being proto-New Age, but yeah, most tended to cheese out after a while if they went on long enough...

[Everyneurotic]

Originally Posted by Savage Clone

I would say Popol Vuh and Ash Ra Tempel wound up being proto-New Age...

along with tangerine dream.

[krastian]

Originally Posted by Savage Clone

or one of the first three or 4 Tangerine Dream LPs. They were excellent when they first started.

Mos def.....I love everything through Exit.

[Signpost]

Ash Ra Tempel - Schwingungen
Can - Tago Mago
Faust - Faust
the first Kraftwerk record
Xhol Caravan -Electrip
Amon Duul - Psychedelic Underground
Harvester - Hemat
Brainticket - Cottonwoodhill

[Everyneurotic]

when people mention kraftwerk as krautrock, it reminds me of EDIT::actually, stupid poseurs, who mention every german band as krautrock, regardless of the music they play, like:

"the scorpions were a terrible krautrock band but kreator were a good one...rammstein are also bad within the new wave of krautrock bands".

[Savage Clone]

The early, pre-Autobahn Kraftwerk and Organisation albums definitely qualify as much as anything. Kratwerk certainly departed from that style earlier than most, but I would say they were right in the thick of it at one time, especially as they played with Dinger and Rother of Neu.

[Toilet & Bowels]

and isn't the first scorpions record supposed to be both good & kraut?

[Everyneurotic]

nawh! the scorpions were always playing american and british-inspired hard rock.

but the first couple of albums were quite good, especially since they contained either michael schenker or uli john roth on guitar; they were certainly more intricate and composed than their "rock you like a hurricane"/"wind of change", more visible phase.

about kraftwerk, yeah, they started on that wave but they completely renounced to the term and association with those bands a long time ago, and when people (at least the ones i know) talk about kraftwerk as kraut, they refer to the autobahn and beyond period ("the model" and that crap, making a point how superior the other bands were to kraftwerk).

[Toilet & Bowels]

but something like autobahn isn't that different to cluster, and i don't think anyone would contest their kraut credentials.

[Everyneurotic]

that's like the controversial point of kraut. kraftwerk's music is hugely influenced by the movement (until they started doing singles, really) and their music might have never sounded like that had they started somewhere else in the middle of another scene, but they did speak against it and denied association with any of those bands (maybe they wanted the critics to give them good reviews or maybe they just hated labels). so...

i don't know, musicalwise, yeah they are kraut; but if you ask them, they'll probably tell you that all those bands broke up or cheesed out and they are still going strong, whatever.

[gmku]

I don't have much krautrock. I have the first Neu album and like that a lot, though. I haven't even heard Can. Or Kraftwerk.

[Savage Clone]

Kraftwerk also said in a recent interview that no one inside Germany actually uses the term 'Krautrock.'

[Toilet & Bowels]

Originally Posted by Savage Clone

Kraftwerk also said in a recent interview that no one inside Germany actually uses the term 'Krautrock.'

well i'd be suprised if any germans refer to themselves as krauts

[Everyneurotic]

it was a derogatory, insulting name used by the music press, they hated all those bands. then it was used by music fans abroad to separate the german bands from the genesis/elp/jethro tull set of progressive rock bands of the day.

some people today don't think krautrock bands have annything to do with progressive rock.

[Toilet & Bowels]

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic

some people today don't think krautrock bands have annything to do with progressive rock.

well what do they have to do with prog?