What is punk? - Page 2

Rob Instigator · 08.22.2006, 09:43 AM

the Ramones started it all.

street kids, thugs, hustlers, male prostitues, junkies, washouts, dead end kids, decided to start a band and rock like chuck berry. PUNK

porkmarras · 08.22.2006, 10:06 AM

Most people who used to hang around at Warhol's Factory could be credited with inventing Punk in that case.Punk and double Punk at that!

Pookie · 08.22.2006, 10:07 AM

Let the punk thing die, Porky. Stop living in the past and get back to the electronica thread.

porkmarras · 08.22.2006, 10:08 AM

Toilet & Bowels · 08.22.2006, 10:10 AM

electronica is so 90s

porkmarras · 08.22.2006, 10:16 AM

yeah it is .Spookie i'll see you in that 90s thread then.

LittlePuppetBoy · 08.22.2006, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon boy

the original idea of punk was to do it yourself and independantly minded people creating energetic music they liked in reaction to what they saw as boring or staid music. as long as you had the passion and energy to do it then it didnt matter if it sounded good or bad. this could be applied to loads of different genres of music and not just three chord scronk. unfortunatly it got hijacked by a fashion sensability and media frenzy so it became about looking like sid viscious or something. fuck that.

exactly

LittlePuppetBoy · 08.22.2006, 03:20 PM

did you guys know that punk and New Wave were once the same thing?

Pookie · 08.22.2006, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LittlePuppetBoy

did you guys know that punk and New Wave were once the same thing?

New Wave followed Punk. It was punk with all that was interesting and exciting about it removed.

LittlePuppetBoy · 08.22.2006, 03:54 PM

I am personally finding punk reallt interesting now.

Anngella · 08.22.2006, 04:56 PM

A misspelling of 'pink'. Rhymes with funk, spunk, junk, trunk, clunk, crunk, dunk, stunk..

finding nobody · 08.22.2006, 05:32 PM

bunk trunk skunk!

jheii · 08.22.2006, 06:19 PM

Punk is like Anarchism - A lot of people claim to be a part of it, but aren't and most people who are a part of it don't believe that they are.
It's not the Ramones.
It's not the Sex Pistols.
That's for damn sure.

!@#$%! · 08.22.2006, 06:25 PM

"I always thought a punk was someone who took it up the ass" -- William Burroughs.

Everyneurotic · 08.22.2006, 06:25 PM

fuck the ramones!!

all they did was rip off the stooges but with catchy chorus so they could profit from the sound and the buzzword.

the ramones started nothing, in fact, the ramones started the kind of music blink 182, sum 41, green day, fall out boy, etc, play.

nomadicfollower · 08.22.2006, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

"I always thought a punk was someone who took it up the ass" -- William Burroughs.

Hah!

Cantankerous · 08.22.2006, 08:23 PM

It's true. A punk was previously a term for a kid who got fucked up the ass in prison until Legs McNeil got the bright idea to name his magazine Punk and the media went wild.

WHOREOHSCOPE · 08.22.2006, 08:42 PM

hey cmon don't attack the ramones- they were one of the bands who didn't want that "punk" label in the first place. 1980's ramones =NOT TOO GREAT- but they were truly apart of the "punk scene"--tho I do agree with you on The Sex Pistols- who rooted from what Malcom McClaren took from Richard Hell over to england where "PUNK" became very open to the media and more then just downtown scene(what happened in the US) and this --- Jheii >>>> "Punk is like Anarchism - A lot of people claim to be a part of it, but aren't and most people who are a part of it don't believe that they are."

The term "punk" comes from the fanzine/magazine started by Legs Mcneil++John Holstrom--- which would of been called "teenage news" but Legs thought that name thought up by John was a bad idea- so it became Punk. Their first mag featured Lou Reed+ The Ramones(because they WERE apart of what is known as "punk")

alot of the punk scene didn't even want this but got it because it was a simple label to put on anyone who played that kind of downtown music at Max's or CBGB's-- really how many of these threads have occured tho?? I'm sure by now alot of people have been educated on the subject matter or know it, the best sources are those who were involved with the scene, know+have experienced it--- if you don't know alot about the scene you should definitely look deeper into it, thru media devoted to the truth and less of the nostalgia stuff-- Some examples-
DVD+++ Punk: Attitude(great documentary/ also features Thurston Moore and Sonic Footage*must drop since this is a Sonic Youth board :-P)
Please Kill Me(book featuring quotes that came from many involved in the pre punk and "punk" scene - such as Iggy+the stooges/Velvet Underground/Ny Dolls to Patti Smith/Richard Hell(neon boys/television/heartbreakers/voidoids)/Richard Lloyd(television) to the ramones ...etc
THE INTERNET
and if you don't get it- you'll probably never get it.

EDIT : BY THE WAY GREAT WILLIAM BURROUGHS QUOTE AND A FEW PEOPLE SAY THE SAME THING ABOUT IT-- (SOME IN PUNK: ATTITUDE)

Cantankerous · 08.22.2006, 08:44 PM

you have got a lot to learn, sonny boy.

WHOREOHSCOPE · 08.22.2006, 08:48 PM

Me???? -- that isn't all I know -- it's just a basic run thru mostly commenting on what Jheii said at the beginning- with a few people from the early scene listed under the legs mcneil book. There is alot more that went on before and after the storm of the "punk" wave which wasn't too big at all in the united states until like 1991-- with Nirvana and all and by then it wasn't the same.

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LittlePuppetBoy expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Aylmer(now Gatineau), Quebec Posts: 1,756	I am personally finding punk reallt interesting now. __________________
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Anngella expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Vagina Posts: 1,900	A misspelling of 'pink'. Rhymes with funk, spunk, junk, trunk, clunk, crunk, dunk, stunk.. __________________ FLICKR http://slouchingsunflowers.tumblr.com/
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finding nobody invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 7,275	bunk trunk skunk!
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jheii bad moon rising Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Savannah, GA Posts: 224	Punk is like Anarchism - A lot of people claim to be a part of it, but aren't and most people who are a part of it don't believe that they are. It's not the Ramones. It's not the Sex Pistols. That's for damn sure. __________________ "In the room the women come and go With Vodka-mixed orange Jello"
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!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,648	"I always thought a punk was someone who took it up the ass" -- William Burroughs.
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Everyneurotic invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mexico Posts: 15,713	fuck the ramones!! all they did was rip off the stooges but with catchy chorus so they could profit from the sound and the buzzword. the ramones started nothing, in fact, the ramones started the kind of music blink 182, sum 41, green day, fall out boy, etc, play. __________________ Richard Clayderman found alive and still bland! Repo Man has all night! Photographic evidence of Monosodic's existance! New Kiddieriot shit after all! Never too late to share fave rex from the year before! David Keenan is a douchebag! Ron Asheton missed!
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Cantankerous invito al cielo Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A RETIREMENT HOME Posts: 18,499	It's true. A punk was previously a term for a kid who got fucked up the ass in prison until Legs McNeil got the bright idea to name his magazine Punk and the media went wild. __________________ RETIRED
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08.22.2006, 08:42 PM	#38
WHOREOHSCOPE children of satan Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 294	hey cmon don't attack the ramones- they were one of the bands who didn't want that "punk" label in the first place. 1980's ramones =NOT TOO GREAT- but they were truly apart of the "punk scene"--tho I do agree with you on The Sex Pistols- who rooted from what Malcom McClaren took from Richard Hell over to england where "PUNK" became very open to the media and more then just downtown scene(what happened in the US) and this --- Jheii >>>> "Punk is like Anarchism - A lot of people claim to be a part of it, but aren't and most people who are a part of it don't believe that they are." The term "punk" comes from the fanzine/magazine started by Legs Mcneil++John Holstrom--- which would of been called "teenage news" but Legs thought that name thought up by John was a bad idea- so it became Punk. Their first mag featured Lou Reed+ The Ramones(because they WERE apart of what is known as "punk") alot of the punk scene didn't even want this but got it because it was a simple label to put on anyone who played that kind of downtown music at Max's or CBGB's-- really how many of these threads have occured tho?? I'm sure by now alot of people have been educated on the subject matter or know it, the best sources are those who were involved with the scene, know+have experienced it--- if you don't know alot about the scene you should definitely look deeper into it, thru media devoted to the truth and less of the nostalgia stuff-- Some examples- DVD+++ Punk: Attitude(great documentary/ also features Thurston Moore and Sonic Footagemust drop since this is a Sonic Youth board :-P) Please Kill Me(book featuring quotes that came from many involved in the pre punk and "punk" scene - such as Iggy+the stooges/Velvet Underground/Ny Dolls to Patti Smith/Richard Hell(neon boys/television/heartbreakers/voidoids)/Richard Lloyd(television) to the ramones ...etc THE INTERNET* and if you don't get it- you'll probably never get it. EDIT : BY THE WAY GREAT WILLIAM BURROUGHS QUOTE AND A FEW PEOPLE SAY THE SAME THING ABOUT IT-- (SOME IN PUNK: ATTITUDE)
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WHOREOHSCOPE children of satan Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 294	Me???? -- that isn't all I know -- it's just a basic run thru mostly commenting on what Jheii said at the beginning- with a few people from the early scene listed under the legs mcneil book. There is alot more that went on before and after the storm of the "punk" wave which wasn't too big at all in the united states until like 1991-- with Nirvana and all and by then it wasn't the same.
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