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Old 04.04.2006, 05:39 PM   #21
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no, i agree chabib.. i just meant at the time of ATP 04 I had never heard Black Dice or Wolf Eyes... I was totally blown away... Thurston's top 10 records of 05 for volcanic tongue has lots of esoteric stuff eg. Cant, Religious Knives (double leopards side project).. i haven't heard of most of it.. i just meant if the spirit of this ATP is anything like ATP 04 eg anything goes complete WEIRDNESS, then it'll be all good.. which i'm sure it will..
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Old 04.04.2006, 05:40 PM   #22
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i think festivals suck big time.

i'm curious about the lineup though. like chris says, let's see if they can pull one without the "usual suspects"
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Old 04.04.2006, 06:06 PM   #23
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Old 04.04.2006, 06:10 PM   #24
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why? there's pretty much only constructive criticism in this thread.
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Old 04.04.2006, 06:17 PM   #25
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i think festivals suck big time.

i'm curious about the lineup though. like chris says, let's see if they can pull one without the "usual suspects"

festivals largely suck but ATP is one of the exceptions to this rule. You get to stay in chalets and listen to the most obscure cool shit imaginable.. there seems to be a lot more underground festivals cropping up these days eg. No Fun, Subcurrent, Kill Yr Timid Notion, Le Weekend etc.
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Old 04.04.2006, 06:20 PM   #26
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i'm with kegma here, but also against.

it's not the same watching a show in a small place with (semi) unlimited time to play than seeing 50 bands play for 30-40 minutes in a big place where the energy is lost. also, when you go see a couple of bands you are almost into them or open to listen to stuff you haven't heard, and with festivals, it's mostly people who just go to see a couple of bands and get bored the rest of the time, to me, that's a buzzkiller.

that's my point of view.
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Old 04.04.2006, 06:28 PM   #27
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I like festivals for their variety, it's a whole day or more event, and because it's a gathering of cool people (usually).
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Old 04.04.2006, 06:39 PM   #28
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why? there's pretty much only constructive criticism in this thread.

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Old 04.04.2006, 07:20 PM   #29
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I'm VERY excited by this. Very, very excited.

I love All Tomorrow's Parties. I love everything those people put on. All the ATP events I saw last year were great, easily the live highlights of 2005 for me (Vincent Gallo's ATP weekend at Camber Sands, Mike Watt & the Secondmen at the ICA and (of course) The Stooges performing 'Funhouse' at the Hammersmith Apollo.)

I can't wait to see what Thurston puts on (and what the new venue is like.)
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Old 04.04.2006, 07:33 PM   #30
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well ATP takes place in a fairly small indoor venue... and most bands play longer than 30-40 mins i think, also seeing like 60 bands play over the course of 3 days is a totally amazing headfuck.
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Old 04.04.2006, 07:40 PM   #31
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sonar is a danced based festival in barcelona, though it does feature "avant-garde" type stuff too
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Old 04.04.2006, 07:44 PM   #32
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yeah. sonar wasn't what i was thinking about. it was subcurrent. i'm not even sure why sonar was on the tip of my mind.
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well ATP takes place in a fairly small indoor venue... and most bands play longer than 30-40 mins i think, also seeing like 60 bands play over the course of 3 days is a totally amazing headfuck.

and along with that, there won't be much of that boredom: the people there are generally a lot more open-minded than at most festivals. maybe even more than the many scottish experimental festivals mentioned, as they're cheap enough for anyone with a moderate fancy for something to do to come along.

but despite that, i hope to get some amusement from the trad rocker types being baffled and enraged by something like a dredd foole solo vocal performance.
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Old 04.04.2006, 11:39 PM   #35
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Why don't they do the ATP festival in Long Beach anymore?
It makes me sad...
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If there's some sort of Dredd Foole solo vocal type deal then It'll probably be worth it.
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Why don't they do the ATP festival in Long Beach anymore?

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I have every faith in Thurston putting together a highly eclectic challenging mix of artists... I agree that the usual suspects should being ommited... there are bound to be a few, but that's inevitable really. Not that I would mind seeing the Magik Markers, Double Leopards etc. etc. again. In fact my only direct request to Thurston would be Charalambides... because they blew my mind at the 2004 ATP and they haven't played here since. (as far as I know) In fact I'm not even sure whether they are still playing together... does anyone know?
Also it would be great to see more bands from the Massachusetts scene, The Believers, Mouthus, Vampire Belt, Jessica Rylan etc. etc.
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