[Aaaadrpk]

Originally Posted by floatingslowly

don't act like you haven't tried it, my spanish-speaking friend.

I don't speak spanish and I'm not your friend!

[canabero]

Originally Posted by floatingslowly

you don't think STP is pop?

STP is two suits in a boardroom, looking at soundscan saying "we need a band that sounds like Pearl Jim vs Nirvana vs Alice and Change. I tell ya, baby, it'd be fab".

pop, my man. pop.

STP were never too famous and are far of being one of my fav. but you're telling shit saying that they were pop ( or mainstream) you can't compare , they could have changed their style when grunge/alt. rock dead ( to the masses) that's the case of Incubus and No Doubt.
And YYY art??? OMG a girl that sing like a teenager and some guys that have basic technique.

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by canabero

STP were never too famous

Actually (and deplorably), they were pretty massive at one point ('92-'94), thanks to the stupidity of the masses who made their first worthless LP reach #3 in the Billboard chart and their second dung album debut at #1.

Originally Posted by canabero

you're telling shit saying that they were pop ( or mainstream) you can't compare , they could have changed their style when grunge/alt. rock dead ( to the masses)

Designed to sound like the best-sellers at the time, by very definition they were mainstream. And they did change when their brand of mimicry was no longer as lucrative: it's called Velvet Revolver.

Originally Posted by canabero

And YYY art??? OMG a girl that sing like a teenager and some guys that have basic technique.

You could take those same features and use them to describe one of the most exhilarating, innovative, irresistible, sublime and rockin' albums of all time: the unsurpassable Cut. 41 years after the Pop & Pies & Fun manifesto, 36 years after Forest Hills' finest first blew up their amps at a certain Bowery dive, 20 years after "punk broke" and 3 years after SY picked up the "Goodbye Talent" headline hurled at them by the NME and proudly stamped it over the SYR7 cover, it's hugely appalling that some STILL miss the point in a calamitous fashion by citing technique as a sine qua non condition for rock and roll. And as for your reactionary dismissal of "pop", fuckin' A I wants me some pop, junior! From Dusty Springfield to Best Coast, Brenton Wood to Prince, Spector to Blondie, Randy Newman to The Go-Betweens to Jenny Lewis and beyond, the amazing musicarchitecture contained in each glorious minute of the greatest pop songs remains —just like blues changes on one hand and the most daring avant-garde on the other— a fundamental force in art and nature and a paramount reason to just get up in the goddamn morning.

[Aaaadrpk]

Flashback ...

[keep poppin pimples]

stone temple pilots are pretty bad, but liking them isn't anywhere near as bad as not liking serge gainsbourg

[canabero]

Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

Designed to sound like the best-sellers at the time, by very definition they were mainstream. And they did change when their brand of mimicry was no longer as lucrative: it's called Velvet Revolver.

why people have to relate STP whit Velvet Revolver? De Leo brothers have a big influence in the band, and Velvet Revolver was a proyect that only included Weiland. no sense

Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

You could take those same features and use them to describe one of the most exhilarating, innovative, irresistible, sublime and rockin' albums of all time: the unsurpassable Cut.

sorry my ignorance but WTF is that? band name?

[keep poppin pimples]

i suspect he means "cut" as in the slits album


honestly bringing up the slits because someone dissed yeah yeah yeahs would just be sad

one band is mega-genius and the other sucks

[ann ashtray]

Yeah, STP never got that famous and definitely aren't pop. here's proof:

 

[Thin_icE]

hmmm...yeah, I misunderstood that one. Fuck STP, that's all. Good night.

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by keep poppin pimples

stone temple pilots are pretty bad, but liking them isn't anywhere near as bad as not liking serge gainsbourg

Frank Zappa, Serge Gainsbourg, Scott Walker, Jeff Buckley, Radiohead - none of them are going anywhere near my playlist anytime soon.

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by keep poppin pimples

i suspect he means "cut" as in the slits album

honestly bringing up the slits because someone dissed yeah yeah yeahs would just be sad

one band is mega-genius and the other sucks

I did not directly compare the two bands, certainly not in the pedestrian way you suggest. I brought The Slits up in order to convey the absurdity of characterizing elements like "teenage vocals" and lack of conventional musical proficiency as dismal flaws when they can indeed be applied to a masterpiece. If in lieu of lazily misreading my words you had responded judiciously —at the very least saying "Whoa, you did not just compare The Slits to the Yeah Yeah Yeahs, did you?"— we could have for once actually had a goddamn conversation going in this fucking place instead of this permanently frustrating horseshit climate where almost everyone is constantly flying off the handle at the slightest divergent opinion - which, by the way, is seldom expressed rationally, with thought-provoking fundaments, with enough lucid weight to merit being posted in the first place. "BWAARRGHH RATHER RIPPED SUCKED! THEY DON'T DO WHAT I WANT THEM TO DO! BWWAAAAAAARRRRRGGHHH!!". A real charming operation, this board.

Then again, it's my fault anyway for breaking my own Do Not Engage commandment. I now go back to my natural bittorrent announcements/bootlegs sharing/etc. habitat...

[maropi]

I just landed here to read how the people was freaking out about flying to Brazil. And I've found people discussing about not flying pilots. Go figure.

[floatingslowly]

Originally Posted by Aaaadrpk

I don't speak spanish and I'm not your friend!

¡el ó el!

do you know that liars go to HELL??¿?

[keep poppin pimples]

Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

I did not directly compare the two bands, certainly not in the pedestrian way you suggest. I brought The Slits up in order to convey the absurdity of characterizing elements like "teenage vocals" and lack of conventional musical proficiency as dismal flaws when they can indeed be applied to a masterpiece. If in lieu of lazily misreading my words you had responded judiciously —at the very least saying "Whoa, you did not just compare The Slits to the Yeah Yeah Yeahs, did you?"— we could have for once actually had a goddamn conversation going in this fucking place instead of this permanently frustrating horseshit climate where almost everyone is constantly flying off the handle at the slightest divergent opinion - which, by the way, is seldom expressed rationally, with thought-provoking fundaments, with enough lucid weight to merit being posted in the first place. "BWAARRGHH RATHER RIPPED SUCKED! THEY DON'T DO WHAT I WANT THEM TO DO! BWWAAAAAAARRRRRGGHHH!!". A real charming operation, this board.

Then again, it's my fault anyway for breaking my own Do Not Engage commandment. I now go back to my natural bittorrent announcements/bootlegs sharing/etc. habitat...

it seems like you know the difference being bringing things up and comparing them, so show me when i wrote that you compared them huh? i myself compared them ffs

[forgetmeknots]

Originally Posted by floatingslowly

trust me. don't do it.

the eat white people there.

srsly

That's really dumb. Brazil - my country - is the country with the biggest racial diversity you will ever find, due to so many waves of immigration throughout the years. Unfortunately, prejudice here is still directed towards black people, as we have a very sad history of slavery. That is a sensitive issue, not some kind of a joke.

[forgetmeknots]

Originally Posted by floatingslowly

don't act like you haven't tried it, my spanish-speaking friend.

SPANISH? Are you dumb for real? We speak Portuguese in Brazil. And a big percentage of the population speaks more than one language (English, French, etc.). Is that the case where you come from? I guess not.

[forgetmeknots]

Originally Posted by Gerrystumbaugh

I figure if I sell my record collection, I'll get enough scratch to fly to Sao Paulo on November 14...... could be my last chance to see SY......

I'll be there. Yay!

[floatingslowly]

I hear Portuguese is a dead language, like Latin...or Ebonics.

et tu, jive turkey?

next up:

Portuguese - A Language Lacking Both Culture and Style or Why Sonic Youth Should Avoid the Jungle (a 10 part mini-series narrated by Yrs Truly)

[static-harmony]

Originally Posted by ann ashtray

Yeah, STP never got that famous and definitely aren't pop. here's proof:

 

How can you not say that's not pop. Just look at how gay they look.

[static-harmony]

Originally Posted by forgetmeknots

That's really dumb. Brazil - my country - is the country with the biggest racial diversity you will ever find, due to so many waves of immigration throughout the years. Unfortunately, prejudice here is still directed towards black people, as we have a very sad history of slavery. That is a sensitive issue, not some kind of a joke.

Classic but true: