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Old 04.06.2006, 11:57 PM   #21
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Old 04.06.2006, 11:59 PM   #22
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In this context, "Every Day" is a two-word phrase.

"Happens every day" is different than "Everyday people."


"Than" would be "then" in this context as well.
Sayin'.

Yeah my English degree means nothing......not that you study that kind of shit anyway.
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Old 04.07.2006, 12:01 AM   #23
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I was an English major too!
It's true.

I was just having fun, seeing as it's a nitpick thread. Please, take no offense.
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Old 04.07.2006, 12:08 AM   #24
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Ha, yeah I know man. I'm usually pretty on point with stuff like than vs then their vs there etc. I graduated in Aug. and I still haven't found a decent job yet.
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Old 04.07.2006, 12:09 AM   #25
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I just remembered my favorite from some other board:

"your retarted"
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Old 04.07.2006, 12:25 AM   #26
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I was an English major too!
It's true.

I was just having fun, seeing as it's a nitpick thread. Please, take no offense.

I personally DO mean to offend. Be offended, for you flouters of grammar and spelling ARE offenders! You should be ASHAMED that you are wasting the knowledge that has been bestowed upon you!

I don't care if "whom" is phased out, I will still look disdainfully upon those who fail to use it in the appropriate context.

*Actually, I suspect I still fuck that one up on occasion.

I like "whom" though. It sounds so posh and pretentious. Better than sounding retarted.
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Old 04.07.2006, 12:27 AM   #27
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Be offended, for you flouters of grammar and spelling ARE offenders! You should be ASHAMED that you are wasting the knowledge that has been bestowed upon you!

hah hah, that's funny-- you ARE catholic after all, aren't you?
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Old 04.07.2006, 12:28 AM   #28
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What??? Like I said, you don't learn that crap in college (I didn't). Everyone is an offender at some point.
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Old 04.07.2006, 12:38 AM   #29
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What??? Like I said, you don't learn that crap in college (I didn't). Everyone is an offender at some point.

I didn't mean that I meant to offend you in particular. Well, I sort of did, but not really haha

No !@#$%!, I'm not a Catholic, I'm just a sanctimonious, tyrannical asshole. Oh, wait...

JOKING
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Old 04.07.2006, 12:38 AM   #30
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Ha ha...no you didn't offend me.
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Old 04.07.2006, 12:57 AM   #31
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oh fuck, i almost forgot

"noone" for "no one" - doesn't peeve me it's just wrong

there was this cool boardie called himself noonproductions

he meant nobody we thought it was 12pm

it was not his fault, he's belgian, so he learned from what he saw

"noone" sounds like the time
a "nooner" is a lunchtime quickie (well you could have a long lunch too...)

you can put a dash or a space: no-one or no one if you mean "nobody"
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Old 04.07.2006, 03:16 AM   #32
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The English language is a fine tool - you'll find it serves you much better if you use it properly.

My pet hate (like many) is apostrophes heaving their way in when they have no business being there at all. English greengrocers are particularly prone to the use of wild apostrophes.

Having said that, I don't really mind the preposition thing at all. I also would ask everyone to bear in mind that, despite what some might claim, there has always been an element of choice in the split infinitive 'rule'.
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Old 04.07.2006, 06:45 AM   #33
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"Them" is beginning to be a recognized gender neutral term for "him/her" or "s/he." It's only a matter of time.

haha, that's funny!
english isn't my first language and i actually "learned" from reading this very board that this was supposedly correct grammar in english. i hadn't seen it used before... shows what the internet can do to the innocent reader!

some spelling and grammar errors can annoy me, but mostly when they're made in my own language and especially when they're written on paper. they just look incredibly dumb in official letters. in english, i'm sure i make plenty of errors myself and as an outsider i'm not even always aware of the differences between english and american-english spelling.


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"could of/could have", "your/you're", "there/their" are my main pet peeves.

i sometimes catch myself on mixing up "then/than" and "to/too", but i know how they're supposed to be used so when that happens it's just from typing too quickly. i always edit then.
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Old 04.07.2006, 07:12 AM   #34
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I will dish out no criticism to non-native speakers. The way I see it, you've come this far and I know nothing of your language save a few words. I had no idea where you were from for a long time; I assumed English was your first language when I first joined the board.
Anyone who learns my language so I don't have to learn theirs get huge points in my book, and as long as I can understand him/her (see how I did that? The him/her construction is OK for text, but so awkward in speech that I think "they" or "them" will take over in the official lexicon sooner than later) will get no nitpicking from me.

Truncated will probably still give you a hard time though; she is brutal!
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Old 04.07.2006, 07:43 AM   #35
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yes, she seems in full war mode... i don't expect much compasion from her!

i used to write he/she correctly though until this board disinformed me. i shall kick the habit at once. hopefully truncated will be pleased.
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Old 04.07.2006, 07:47 AM   #36
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Eminently sensible words, Savage Clone.

But I would like to add that language changes naturally, through use and re-use - for example, it's highly likely that everyone on this board now uses slang terms that didn't exist in that sense even five or ten years ago. Are new words/uses for words always bad? Not neccessarily, in my opinion, and we should not be too quick to denounce modern changes whilst we use and even celebrate developments of the past. To use an extreme example, Shakespeare gave us something like 1800 new words! Many of them are still very common everyday words that we all use: critical, gloomy, accomodation, road and lonely are five that spring to mind. He also shoved words together to make new phrases eg pitched battle, mind's eye, foregone conclusion, heart of gold.

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Old 04.07.2006, 07:48 AM   #37
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Old 04.07.2006, 07:57 AM   #38
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this thread is awesome. i'd just like to add that "lose" and "loose" are two different words, as it tends to really annoy me when people mix those up. but i'm sure my grammar isn't the best either, so i'll hide away again now after this little post.

oh and for some reason i like to type everything in lower case, despite this being grammatically incorrect.
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Old 04.07.2006, 08:04 AM   #39
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Truncated, i think i'll give you some rep points for this thread, unless you don't want them.

I'm studying English at the moment and i need a lot of practice to master it. I still make a lot of mistakes, mostly grammatical ones, but fortunately i've made a huge progress in learning grammar rules etc. and posting on this board really helps me in developing my language skills.
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Old 04.07.2006, 08:07 AM   #40
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Yeah, Lose and Loose being mixed up drives me crazy as well as the whole their, there, they're thing.

I happen to read a fair of email correspondence and letters written by people with well paid jobs in the crap job I have and you'd be shocked by the standard of grammar and spelling. Terrible....and people sending CVs in and covering letters are even worse....how do you expect to get a job if you can't even spell properly in a letter that you really should check quite thoroughly before sending. I think I might have actually kept a few examples in my drawer (yeah, I'm that sad) they were that bad. One guy actually sent in a CV with absolutely no details of previous education....I'm no CV expert but that doen't seem sensible.
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