[pbradley]

overrated

*drinks some more Jameson*

[atsonicpark]

I think it's cool if people are sXe but why do people get tattoos ? I know a dude that has 3 big x's on his chest (not for porn, but for sXe...). It's like.. "okay, yeah, whatever, come on dude... you don't do drugs and alcohol.. *golf clap* do you really need to spend $150 to get huge tattoos of X's?"

My favorite person I know is this dude who said "I've been straight edge a few times in my life." And I think that's impossible.. you can only be straight edge once.. once you get drunk or do drugs or something, you no longer have the edge! It's a cool lifestyle, I just don't.. I mean, why not just fucking have all kinds of different things like that... "I never murdered no one! I'm anti-kill EDGE!" I mean, geez, be proud of yourself, but come on. I dunno if that really had anything to do with this thread but how often is sXe mentioned here? (besides the Ian MacKaye buttfuck thread)

[pbradley]

Most straight edge kids I knew gave up when they hit the legal age.

sXe 4 however long it makes me look cool

[atsonicpark]

I said I was sXe for one day, because I thought it would be cool to have big black X's on my hands. Then, I was like, "ehhhhhhhh... Most people who proclaim themselves to be sXe are no fun at all."

[pbradley]

yeah, then there's always those christian kids that want to get all punk rock without pissin off jesus.


I'm too Irish for any of that bullshit.

[Green_mind]

hmm, no sir, I don't think I've met a sober person before.

[HECKLER SPRAY]

 

A straight-edge guy in 1982.
He really looks sane, no ?

[pbradley]

Ian MacKaye, a straight edge guy? Can of worms right there.

[Everyneurotic]

i used to have straight edge attacks, i would draw x's in my hands and not drink or smoke in that say date, then when the x's faded, i'd go back (not that i spend all my waking hours drinking anyway). then again, i used to have wigga attacks too.

yeah, juice rules!!!!

[Washing Machine]

Originally Posted by ploesj

i don't drink alcohol. got some healthy liver here.

And a dead soul

Alcohol can be art. How people can miss out on Guinness, Hoegaarden or the beauty of a fine ale?

Personally I'd rather do what I want, enjoy myself, not worry to much and die younger then lead a long life of abstaining from the things I enjoy. Obviously there are limits and I employ a degree of moderation but the primary objective of my life is too enjoy the handful of years I have on this planet. I suppose some people dont enjoy alcohol and thats fine.

[SynthethicalY]

I don't care much for alcohol, or drugs for this matter, but doesnt mean I have not tried both. In my opinion they are lame.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Washing Machine

And a dead soul

Alcohol can be art. How people can miss out on Guinness, Hoegaarden or the beauty of a fine ale?

Personally I'd rather do what I want, enjoy myself, not worry to much and die younger then lead a long life of abstaining from the things I enjoy. Obviously there are limits and I employ a degree of moderation but the primary objective of my life is too enjoy the handful of years I have on this planet. I suppose some people dont enjoy alcohol and thats fine.

feck man, you've obviously never met any alkies. those people are more fucked up than your worst nightmares.

i like to get plastered a few times a year, but if somebody else chooses not to, it's none of my business to persuade them to do so. fact is that alcohol unlike othre drugs is poisonous to every cell of the body, from the brain to the gonads, not just the liver, and if you choose to take poision, you shouldn't feel morally superior-- matter of fact you should be able to enjoy yourself without chemicals. the other day i went to a melt-banana show & had a blast just drinking bottled water. it's not so hard you know.

of course may i remind you, i like to get plastered every now & then, so i'm not preaching abstinence. but what ploesj said is true and what you said is a bunch of rationalizing horse dung

but hey, welsh drunks like dylan thomas are fine by me.

[Glice]

David R Edwards is my favourite Welsh drunk, by the by.

I like drinking. I dislike sanctimonious drinkers/ non-drinkers. Mostly, like smokers, it's the ex-drinkers/ druggers that are the problem. I've got a fair few (observant) muslim friends, and not a single one has ever whinged about my drinking in front of them.

It's much like the sexuality thing - whatever someone does, or doesn't do, with their life, good for them. Just don't wear it like a badge.

[Washing Machine]

Originally Posted by SynthethicalY

I don't care much for alcohol, or drugs for this matter, but doesnt mean I have not tried both. In my opinion they are lame.

I won't promote drugs (although I am partial to a little bit of weed every now and then) but in defence of alcohol, there are many different types. Aside from the effects (which are not for everyone) there is the taste consideration. I can enjoy Beers, Ales and Wine on a purely asthetic level. I disagree with the dismisal of alcohol on the basis of its effects. Not enough people appreciate the skill, care and attention to detail employed to create really great Whiskey, Wine and Beer. I think to just dismiss 'Alcohol' in general, like some homogenious substance is slightly unfair. I do understand what your saying but the my inner ale critic cries

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Glice

David R Edwards is my favourite Welsh drunk, by the by.

I like drinking. I dislike sanctimonious drinkers/ non-drinkers. Mostly, like smokers, it's the ex-drinkers/ druggers that are the problem. I've got a fair few (observant) muslim friends, and not a single one has ever whinged about my drinking in front of them.

It's much like the sexuality thing - whatever someone does, or doesn't do, with their life, good for them. Just don't wear it like a badge.

ha ha. who is david r. edwards?

i'll check later-- gotta get back to work.

[macrodollar]

Alcohol is part of my national identity, man. Don't try to take it from me!!!!

[CHOUT]

I don't drink..I smoke though. I wanna quit. I smoke pot about once a year to remind me of why I'm not a pothead.

[Washing Machine]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

feck man, you've obviously never met any alkies. those people are more fucked up than your worst nightmares.

i like to get plastered a few times a year, but if somebody else chooses not to, it's none of my business to persuade them to do so. fact is that alcohol unlike othre drugs is poisonous to every cell of the body, from the brain to the gonads, not just the liver, and if you choose to take poision, you shouldn't feel morally superior-- matter of fact you should be able to enjoy yourself without chemicals. the other day i went to a melt-banana show & had a blast just drinking bottled water. it's not so hard you know.

of course may i remind you, i like to get plastered every now & then, so i'm not preaching abstinence. but what ploesj said is true and what you said is a bunch of rationalizing horse dung

but hey, welsh drunks like dylan thomas are fine by me.

My father was an alcoholic lol

There is a big difference between being an alcoholic and enjoying yourself in moderation. And I certainly don't feel morally superior. Its a non-issue. Like I said the effects of alcohol aren't for everyone and I was only talking about how I feel about the health/enjoyment balance. My main objection I suppose is people who don't drink not appreciating that you may drink alcohol for different reasons other than to get drunk. I will often buy something more expensive that I enjoy, rather than something cheap that I can buy more of. Some beers I will take an hour to drink. Most of the time I dont drink at all with my friends. The demonisation often over shadows the pure art of brewing. I know that most people drink just to get drunk but thats not me.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Washing Machine

My father was an alcoholic lol

There is a big difference between being an alcoholic and enjoying yourself in moderation. And I certainly don't feel morally superior. Its a non-issue. Like I said the effects of alcohol aren't for everyone and I was only talking about how I feel about the health/enjoyment balance. My main objection I suppose is people who don't drink not appreciating that you may drink alcohol for different reasons other than to get drunk. I will often buy something more expensive that I enjoy, rather than something cheap that I can buy more of. Some beers I will take an hour to drink. Most of the time I dont drink at all with my friends. The demonisation often over shadows the pure art of brewing. I know that most people drink just to get drunk but thats not me.

sorry, what did you mean your father was an alcoholic?

and the sermon on the pleasures of moderation i have heard ad infinitum.

i don't demonize alcohol...

...but i do enjoy winding you up.

[Washing Machine]

Umm well hes dead now, liver failure. So im aware of what alcoholism is and what it can do. I know lots of people (remember this is wales) who have been in the same situation and now treat alcohol like an evil substance.

I wasn't so much giving a moderation sermon as explaining what I meant by enjoying alcohol. Often people say "I don't like Alcohol". I suppose thats their choice not to drink it and thats fine and probebly better for them in the long run. I just think its a bit of a generalized statement. There are so many different alcoholic drinks and I find the people who say things like that a lot of the time have only tryed one or two beers and a glass of cheap wine (in my experience). On this forum I expect its rather different. Its probebly a case that people had partied through their youth, tryed every drug/drink and then decided it wasn't much for them. Since I enjoy ale, beers and go round trying to taste every one that looks interesting to me, my view on all this is different to most peoples. I suppose its like if someone says "I don't like music". Its their choice but one always suspects they havent listened to enough to pass judgement.