[noisereductions]

THE ONES YOU THOUGHT I'D AGREE WITH:

Movies For The Blind - is amazing. Though woulnd't be in my 25.
Ret to 36 - is great. Not in my 25.
Infamous - FUCK YEAH
Liquid Swords - FUCK YEAH
It Was Written - underrated. Not in my 25.
Life After Death - I don't really like. I'm a much bigger fan of Born To Die, but not a huge Biggie Fan.
The Chronic - Fuck yeah.
The Blueprint - FFFFFFUUUUUUCKYEAAAAHHHHHHHHHH
Reasonable Doubt - nope. Jay is one of my favorite rappers of all time. But I don't quite get the adore of this album really. I think it's good. But not great. I prefer Blueprint and American Gangster big time.
Enter The Wu - OF COURSE
Illmatic - YESSIR

ONES YOU THOUGHT I'D HATE

Hell Hath No Fury - is fantastic. Not in my 25 though.
Madvillainy - is great. Not in my 25 (prefer King Geedorah, Operation Doomsday, and a handful of other DOOM albums actually).

Haven't heard the others.

[noisereductions]

sigh. I came up with this, but I don't feel good about it. I feel like I'd really have to tweak and rethink to be legit. But whatever, this is just conversation ...


A Tribe Called Quest - Midnight Marauders
Wu-Tang Clan - Enter The 36 Chambers
GZA - Liquid Swords
The Roots - Do You Want More
Nas - Illmatic
Gravediggaz - 6 Feet Deep
Lil Wayne - Tha Carter II
Fugees- The Score
Ghostface - The Pretty Toney Album
2Pac - Me Against The World
Tha Pharcyde - Labcabincalifornia
Jay-Z - American Gangster
King Geedorah - Take Me To Your Leader
Jay-Z - The Blueprint
Atmosphere - God Loves Ugly
Dr. Dooom - First Come First Served
Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
Deltron 3030 - s/t
Sage Francis - Personal Journals
Heltah Skeltah - Nocturnal
Dr. Dre - The Chronic
Snoop Doggy Dogg - Doggystyle
Common - Ressurection
Kool Keith - Thee Undatakerz
cLouddead - s/t

[louder]

kinda surprised about Reasonable Doubt.
American Gangster is great though and easily my 3rd fav Jay album.

lots of great stuff in your list. Doggystyle and Take Me to Your Leader!!

[Severian]

Goddammit. Now I have to make a list, or succumb to obsessive compulsive neurosis.

Louder, would you like me to put it here, or make a new thread? Your call.

[louder]

put it here, sure. this could be a thread for all lists, not only mine.

[louder]

GODLOVESUGLY. i really like this album but rarely listen to it. hmmm..

[louder]

you know what NR, i'm not a huge BIG fan either.
yeah he was undeniably a great MC, one of the best ever, but i prefer Pac by a large margin.
his image and attitude put Biggie to a shame.

PIGGIE SMALLZ, hah.

[louder]

American Gangster > any Nas album from the 00's.

such a great atmosphere in that record. it's the one album i wish i was there in the studio while it was being recorded.
seems like Nas' upcoming album Life Is Good is gonna be his American Gangster.
i see God's Son as Nas' Blueprint - his most personal and intimate listen.
their careers are very similar when you come down to think about it.

they say you are either a Beatles or a Stones person.. then in the eighties it was Prince or MJ.
i think Jay & Nas will go down as the Prince & MJ of our era.

[demonrail666]

I don't think I could do 25 but a list of my faves would probably include:

Beastie Boys - Licensed to Ill
A Tribe Called Quest - Low End Theory and Midnight Marauders
Raekwon - Only Built for Cuban Links
Gang Starr - Step in the Arena
Jeru - The Sun Rises in the East
Nas - Illmatic
Mobb Deep - The Infamous
Cypress Hill - Cypress Hill
Schooly D - Saturday Night (or any of his albums, really)
De La Soul - Three Feet High and Rising
Wu Tang Clan - 36 Chambers
LL Cool J - Radio
Public Enemy - Yo Bum Rush the Show (there's better ones but I enjoy this the most)
Run DMC - Raisin' Hell

[Pookie]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

Public Enemy - Yo Bum Rush the Show (there's better ones but I enjoy this the most)

Same here.

[noisereductions]

Originally Posted by louder

you know what NR, i'm not a huge BIG fan either.
yeah he was undeniably a great MC, one of the best ever, but i prefer Pac by a large margin.
his image and attitude put Biggie to a shame.

PIGGIE SMALLZ, hah.

I think Ready to Die is great, but yes, most Pac albums blow it away.

[noisereductions]

Originally Posted by louder

American Gangster > any Nas album from the 00's.

such a great atmosphere in that record. it's the one album i wish i was there in the studio while it was being recorded.
seems like Nas' upcoming album Life Is Good is gonna be his American Gangster.
i see God's Son as Nas' Blueprint - his most personal and intimate listen.
their careers are very similar when you come down to think about it.

they say you are either a Beatles or a Stones person.. then in the eighties it was Prince or MJ.
i think Jay & Nas will go down as the Prince & MJ of our era.

The brilliance of American Gangster is he recorded it to minimal background tracks. And then sent those tracks off and had a bunch of actual musicians add guitars, horns, etc to make the shit sound soulful. It's just so fucking good in an organic way. I love it.

I agree about the Nas/Jay thing. You can like em both, but ther'es one you love. For me it's Jay. I still keep up on Nas, but I don't get excited the same way.

[Severian]

I don't understand how anyone can prefer Pac to BIG. It's incomprehensible to me.

[SpaceCadetHayden]

so disappointing to see you give yeezy a spot like that but otherwise it is an OK list i can't call it good until mystic styles is on it because it is silly to not put that on there okay?

shouts out to mobb deep tho

[louder]

Originally Posted by Severian

I don't understand how anyone can prefer Pac to BIG. It's incomprehensible to me.

Pac was a good kid with a bit feminine attitude. i think that was the result of growing up without a father or a male role model.

then his harsh life made him transform into the Thug Life Pac we all know..

but Pac's sensitive side never left him and he used music to try and change the world. at his best he'd take average beats and turn them into classic songs, with amazing messages.

at times he also used to go on a rage, make angrier songs with more violent themes. which is all a part of his charm, shows he's human.

he was very honest and direct which is "uncool", i guess when you get older.
nevertheless he was a fascinating character, often very relatable, even if his mic skills weren't on par with Biggie's.

[louder]

Originally Posted by SpaceCadetHayden

so disappointing to see you give yeezy a spot like that but otherwise it is an OK list i can't call it good until mystic styles is on it because it is silly to not put that on there okay?

shouts out to mobb deep tho

Three Six are great but there are a few other southern acts i prefer.

[the ikara cult]

Originally Posted by louder

well, Get Rich is the obvious one. i thought i'd get bashed for that.

i don't care for Fiddy's discog at all, i don't think he was ever Pac or Ice Cube, or even Cam'ron, but his debut was awesome. dope beats and infectous hooks.

Get Rich or Die Tryin is more morally objectionable than GG Allin ever was, however you are correct, Its hard to get all moral when P.I.M.P sounds so good.

[Severian]

My list is going to seem so "backpacker" if it's placed next to anything related to Jeezy or 50 Cent. ha.

[noisereductions]

Originally Posted by louder

Pac was a good kid with a bit feminine attitude. i think that was the result of growing up without a father or a male role model.

then his harsh life made him transform into the Thug Life Pac we all know..

but Pac's sensitive side never left him and he used music to try and change the world. at his best he'd take average beats and turn them into classic songs, with amazing messages.

at times he also used to go on a rage, make angrier songs with more violent themes. which is all a part of his charm, shows he's human.

he was very honest and direct which is "uncool", i guess when you get older.
nevertheless he was a fascinating character, often very relatable, even if his mic skills weren't on par with Biggie's.

yeah you seem to see the same thing in him as me.

[louder]

Originally Posted by noisereductions

yeah you seem to see the same thing in him as me.

man it kills me to think about how he died so young, his next album was going to be bigger than this life - Changes, Unconditional Love, Hit Em Up..