[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

Bush only "won" because the country was doing so well and Bush advertised himself as a moderate conservative with social values

That and the fact that he basically promised to give the money saved during the Bill Clinton years "back to the people" [eyeroll] via taxslashes, which evidently appealed to Joe Sixpack and Hockey Mom more than Al Gore's "Medicare Lock Box".

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

What's crazy (well, even crazier) is that while Trump's acceptance speech has been compared to Tricky Dick's own one from 1968, it is impossible to think of Donaldo saying things like Nixon did back then:


Bullshit, of course, but Trump didn't even bother; he just YELLED his fucking hate speech as loud as he could.



That'll depend on the perception of the mandate as dictated by the United States ridiculous electoral college system (and don't even get me started on federalism and why it should NOT apply to the U.S.). If Hillary wins in, say, FORTY states, it won't matter if she wins each of them 50.01% vs 49.99% — it'll be considered an epic landslide anyway.

but mandates in American politics aren't determined by proportion of votes like in European politics rather in public perception, enthusiasm, and support and there is very little enthusiasm for Ovelord Hillary win or lose. reality is even Trump doesn't have genuine enthusiasm rather his "supporters" are enthusiastic about their partisanship but not necessarily their candidate. its essentially bizarro world John McCain.

[!@#$%!]

gore was a boring-ass fucking candidate. people wanted to "have a beer" with the fucking texan dolt instead. sure, the supreme court handed florida, and nader had a role in shaving those numbers close, but ultimately gore was a fucking boring candidate who squandered his advantage by being boring.

so im not counting my chickens yet.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo... ein-5952.html


hillary unfortunately is much more exciting when she's pissed off, putting the senate fuckers in their place, than when she's trying to be positive and cheery and sounding fake. she's effective but she's got anticharisma. then she picks kaine. zzzzzzzzzzzzz.

all the emotion in this campaign is coming from trump-- the hate, and the haters of hate. so here's to hating trump's hate---and to the self-destruction of the lunatic.

but dont count your chickens yet

[evollove]

Cause for optimism?

In 2000, Bush needed 41 percent of hispanic vote to win. He got 42 or something. In 2004, it was up a percentage point. McCain got 35 or so, Romney 28.

Trump is currently at 14-16%, depending on the source. I'm not sure what the needed Hispanic number is nowadays, but it ain't below 14%.

He's almost certainly going to loose the popular. And if we didn't have an electoral college I would sleep easy.

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

but dont count your chickens yet

[ilduclo]

that's one of the reasons I wanted a Castro brother to be the veep choice. I think she missed a YUGE opportunity to mobilize those voters. In other e(r/l)ection news, Melanoma's web page with her Lower Slobbovian architecture degree has been removed from the web, but good ol Archive.org has saved it, including her beauty product line made with genuine fish eggs!

https://web.archive.org/web/20160720....com/my-world/

[!@#$%!]

@ evllv: no celebration until results are called in

@ ilducio: my panics don't need pandering with some unknown tejano, we already have jorge ramos on the departamento de movilización.

https://mobile.twitter.com/jorgeramo...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

[evollove]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

@ evllv: no celebration until results are called in

Yeah, I was agreeing with you. It's my mantra. I'm going to be a nervous wreck the next 100 days or so, no matter what the polls say.

Wish I didn't live in Ohio. I might have to canvass. Damn it.

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by evollove

Yeah, I was agreeing with you. It's my mantra. I'm going to be a nervous wreck the next 100 days or so, no matter what the polls say.

I plan on hibernating until November 9, when I will hopefully wake up with Clinton as President-elect and brush off the campaign as one long, LONG, LONG motherfucking nightmare.

Originally Posted by evollove

Wish I didn't live in Ohio.

Oyyyy... Sorry for ya, man.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by evollove

Yeah, I was agreeing with you. It's my mantra. I'm going to be a nervous wreck the next 100 days or so, no matter what the polls say.

Wish I didn't live in Ohio. I might have to canvass. Damn it.

if you get burned out by knocking doors you can always help with the data. that's what i did.

also, phone banks.

[evollove]

I'm not sure what you mean by "the data." Sounds painless. I got really lucky: There's a Democratic office within easy walking distance of where I live. I'll ask if they have anything for lazy people who don't love Hillary but fucking hate Trump.

I canvassed like a motherfucker in 2008. It was difficult but I'm convinced knocking on a door an engaging a stranger in conversation is the best way to win someone over. Yeah, the hardest thing is the most effective. Damn you Life!

[!@#$%!]

you go over the list of voter data and make sure it's up to date etc as canvassers return so that you don't send people after the wrong place again or start pissing people off by sending 10 canvassers to the same house. it's the back end to the street activity. "moved" "voted early" "undecided" etc.

i'd rather deal with boring computers than people ha ha ha. but did my bit of that too-- i even drove people to the polls!

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by evollove

Cause for optimism?

In 2000, Bush needed 41 percent of hispanic vote to win. He got 42 or something. In 2004, it was up a percentage point. McCain got 35 or so, Romney 28.

Trump is currently at 14-16%, depending on the source. I'm not sure what the needed Hispanic number is nowadays, but it ain't below 14%.

He's almost certainly going to loose the popular. And if we didn't have an electoral college I would sleep easy.

the electoral college in particular is what dooms Trump.

[The Soup Nazi]

You gotta be shitting me (yet again):

The Latest: Trump: The election might be "rigged"

Also (same link): Pocket Constitution Sales Soar After Trump Feud With Khan Family!

[ilduclo]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

if you get burned out by knocking doors you can always help with the data. that's what i did.

also, phone banks.

me and Ms Ild cook dinners and lunches for campaign volunteers and drop them by our local Democratic Hq. I also volunteer to help set up and take down for their yearly "Chili Cookoff". I have been thinking about entering my chili (which is purely magnificent and would EASILY beat all the others), but there is more need for me to drive equipment back & forth in my little red truck

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by evollove

I'm going to be a nervous wreck the next 100 days or so, no matter what the polls say.

Wish I didn't live in Ohio. I might have to canvass. Damn it.

This is Ohio right now according to The New York Times (check the link to review their methodology):

 

[ilduclo]

big kicks for HRC according to 538.org today, though 64/37 polls only, 68/32 polls plus aaand 82/18 on the now cast

 

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by ilduclo

 

this picture wins the thread

damn, this picture wins ALL threads

[dead_battery]

trumps dogs are trying to incite violence

Originally Posted by roger stone

If there’s voter fraud, this election will be illegitimate, the election of the winner will be illegitimate, we will have a constitutional crisis, widespread civil disobedience, and the government will no longer be the government," Stone said. He also promised a "bloodbath" if the Democrats attempt to "steal" the election."

hopefully they get put down

[The Soup Nazi]

This is just fuckin' priceless, W.C. Fields stuff without the (intended) comedy:

Trump at rally: 'Get the baby out of here'

Video: https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...g-women-voters

[greenlight]

hey guys when does the Trump Vs Clinton debates starting? are there gonna be any? this will be most spectacular show ever...

 

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