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Old 12.11.2012, 12:59 PM   #401
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Nahhh, consciousness exists without brain and skull. plants have consciousness and no centralized brain.

assuming you could call phototropism "consciousness," that still requires a physical structure, not emanations from the ether
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Old 12.11.2012, 01:01 PM   #402
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Guys...what about ghosts?
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Old 12.11.2012, 01:17 PM   #403
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I'm pretty sure Rob is right. I have an 8 sided time-window key crystal that resonates with my root chakra. Surely, it posseses a certain level of consciousness that allows its healing properties to flow.

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Old 12.11.2012, 01:21 PM   #404
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I'm pretty sure Rob is right. I have an 8 sided time-window key crystal that resonates with my root chakra. Surely, it posseses a certain level of consciousness that allows its healing properties to flow.

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Old 12.11.2012, 01:57 PM   #405
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for real though, plants exhibit awareness of their surroundings, which is a sign of consciousness. It may be that the deists and animists were right, that everything in the Universe has consciousness, because the Universe has consciousness.
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Old 12.11.2012, 02:07 PM   #406
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Do you hear that, vegans? It's your salad, crying in pain.

wheat is murder.
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Old 12.11.2012, 02:09 PM   #407
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for real though, plants exhibit awareness of their surroundings, which is a sign of consciousness. It may be that the deists and animists were right, that everything in the Universe has consciousness, because the Universe has consciousness.

what happened to the "all things science" thread

sorry but i gotta be a positivist on these matters-- not measurable or repeatable = philosophy perhaps, but definitely not science
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Old 12.11.2012, 02:10 PM   #408
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they will eventually experiment on it and show it to be true.
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Old 12.11.2012, 02:11 PM   #409
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Rob is totally high. He just gave credence to deists and animists....for the first time....ever.

Are you feverish, Rob? Have you been reading io9 for funsies again???
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Old 12.11.2012, 02:13 PM   #410
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If you want to touch my crystals, Rob, I'll let you!

Just be sure and get me high too.
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Old 12.11.2012, 02:15 PM   #411
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they will eventually experiment on it and show it to be true.

you just single-handedly killed the ghost of francis bacon
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Old 12.11.2012, 03:09 PM   #412
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I still do not believe in soul, but more that consciousness is an inherent property of matter.
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Old 12.11.2012, 03:34 PM   #413
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I still do not believe in soul, but more that consciousness is an inherent property of matter.

that's just belief though-- i don't even know what you mean by "soul".

as for testing-- we don't even have a way to detect "consciousness". all we have is the other side of the turing tests-- "we have it" and if the machine cannot be differentiated then it's "intelligent". but how do you define it? and worse, how do you measure it? magnetism? electricity? something else we don't even know about?

give cognitive neuroscience a couple of centuries and maybe we can start to investigate the "consciousness" of plants. meanwhile, it's just hocus pocus.
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Old 12.11.2012, 03:59 PM   #414
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Old 12.11.2012, 04:17 PM   #415
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What does THE WEED think about you smoking its sex-parts, Rob?

You should feel ashamed. THE WEED would never smoke yr sex-parts (although that might feel nice).
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Old 12.11.2012, 04:26 PM   #416
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vegetarians don;t know that they are killing plants, living beings. Their morality is so stupid.
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Old 12.11.2012, 05:14 PM   #417
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Old 12.31.2012, 06:08 AM   #418
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Old 12.31.2012, 08:21 AM   #419
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^^ that reminds me of randall the honey badger guy but about hydrogen

like he could have said "hydrogen isn't a fucking toy, stupid"
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