[Cantankerous]

i am american and i will never try to make up for the fact that i am american or deny the fact.

[acousticrock87]

Originally Posted by screamingskull

Wow, strange. I have had people (Americans) tell me that they are Irish before, and then expect me to be all like "oh wow, how exotic" or something, ha ha ha ha. Maybe it is exotic for Americans, it certainly gives you more history than just being plain old American. But i always just think "You are an american, you were born in America, you were raised in America and educated in America, you are an American, deal with it"

Yeah, that's actually kind of a weird concept for me. To be "just American". I mean it's technically true, but it's a strange train of thought for Americans.

[Cantankerous]

Originally Posted by acousticrock87

Yeah, that's actually kind of a weird concept for me. To be "just American". I mean it's technically true, but it's a strange train of thought for Americans.

its just how it is in america, partly because america is so new compared to all the other countries.

[screamingskull]

I guess English people have a hard time with it because they can't go around being all "I'm English, and damn proud of it, i am going to stick an English flag on my car" because its seen as being racist (unless there is a football match going on).

and because England and Ireland (and Scotland) have such horrible histories of fighting each other.

[EMMAh]

Originally Posted by _slavo_

Hahaha Emmah, I thought you were like giving me shit in your first response about the chair and Nikon and stuff. like, a completely irrelevant dadaist respose. I laughed hard at it.

Hahah, no I didn't mean it like that. I just didn't read what was going on in the thread really.

[Cantankerous]

i wouldn't stick an american (or irish or norwegian or anything else) flag on anything. although i do have an american flag hanging over a window in my bathroom but it's just for a curtain because it fit properly

[EMMAh]

The only thing I have a Canadian flag on his my suitcase tag.

[acousticrock87]

Originally Posted by Cantankerous

its just how it is in america, partly because america is so new compared to all the other countries.

Yeah, but I mean it's been a while by now. 250 years almost? Two of my grandparents were from Russia, but I have no connections with the country. I don't "feel" half Russian, but it still seems like I'm more Russian than American.

And I don't have a problem with patriotism, but American patriotism usually means Republican asshole.

[terriblecanyons]

Originally Posted by screamingskull

I guess English people have a hard time with it because they can't go around being all "I'm English, and damn proud of it, i am going to stick an English flag on my car" because its seen as being racist (unless there is a football match going on).

and because England and Ireland (and Scotland) have such horrible histories of fighting each other.

Wow, that's a really strange concept for me to grasp. In America a lot of people have their flags and shit everywhere, even the union jack (even though it can be considered redneck or racist or whatever) that is really just a strange concept to me. Then again white people aren't really allowed to say that they're proud to be white... which makes no sense whatsoever.

[Cantankerous]

you mean the confederate flag?

hah the union jack redneck.

[Cantankerous]

 

THESE COLOURS DON'T RUN



hahhaa

[terriblecanyons]

Yeah... forgot the word heh.
That'd be funny if the union jack were redneck though.

[_slavo_]

the american flag patriotist mania was completely puzzling to me the first time I saw it with my eyes. I mean the only time you basically see people waving slovakian flags around here is during the ice hockey world championships (although not really anymore ... we've been shit recently)

[screamingskull]

Originally Posted by terriblecanyons

Wow, that's a really strange concept for me to grasp. In America a lot of people have their flags and shit everywhere, even the union jack (even though it can be considered redneck or racist or whatever) that is really just a strange concept to me. Then again white people aren't really allowed to say that they're proud to be white... which makes no sense whatsoever.

you can't do a thing. It really struck me when i was really really into listening to At The Drive-In, they were so damn proud to be from Puerto Rico, Mexico, and El Paso. They hung Puerto Rican flags from their amps at all their shows, if an English band did that people would assume they were racist, and wanted all immigrants out of the country. Thats just Crazy!

It's not something that i complain about, it's just how it is.

[Cantankerous]

i don't know. i guess everyone (myself included) who grew up in america is just used to that kind of shit. we celebrate the day we kicked the ass of the english every year.

[acousticrock87]

I'm really not sure why people are so patriotic here. It might just be because of 9/11, still. I don't think it was as widespread before that, was it?

[screamingskull]

Originally Posted by Cantankerous

i don't know. i guess everyone (myself included) who grew up in america is just used to that kind of shit. we celebrate the day we kicked the ass of the english every year.

HA!

Originally Posted by acousticrock87

I'm really not sure why people are so patriotic here. It might just be because of 9/11, still. I don't think it was as widespread before that, was it?

Thats totally understandable. I like how patriotic American's can be, it shows unity. Thats nice when its directed towards positive things.

[terriblecanyons]

Originally Posted by screamingskull

you can't do a thing. It really struck me when i was really really into listening to At The Drive-In, they were so damn proud to be from Puerto Rico, Mexico, and El Paso. They hung Puerto Rican flags from their amps at all their shows, if an English band did that people would assume they were racist, and wanted all immigrants out of the country. Thats just Crazy!

It's not something that i complain about, it's just how it is.

Weird. Is it only with that particular flag or with flags in general there?

[terriblecanyons]

Originally Posted by Cantankerous

i don't know. i guess everyone (myself included) who grew up in america is just used to that kind of shit. we celebrate the day we kicked the ass of the english every year.

That, and the fact that a bunch of slave-owning, aristocratic, fussy old white men didn't want to pay their taxes!

[acousticrock87]

Originally Posted by screamingskull

you can't do a thing. It really struck me when i was really really into listening to At The Drive-In, they were so damn proud to be from Puerto Rico, Mexico, and El Paso. They hung Puerto Rican flags from their amps at all their shows, if an English band did that people would assume they were racist, and wanted all immigrants out of the country. Thats just Crazy!

It's not something that i complain about, it's just how it is.

Yeah, but that's mostly because they were actually born in Puerto Rico. In America there's still a bit of racism toward hispanics, so it's something of a backlash. Reactionary patriotism.