[Rob Instigator]

grunge is a word used to put down bands from Seattle. It never meant SHIT

[pepper_green]

uh, you guys! I meant it as a joke. though Purr does have some boogie riffs and blues licks. Dirty is just a big power produced SY record. i like it. always have. it was the first i heard. when Thurston sings "and i know" in Sugar Kane, it's one of my favorite SY moments. it pushes the chorus to extra extreme heights. i never fail to get a thrill out of that. pop heaven.

we should list our fav SY song moments. they have awesome build ups and drop outs.

off the top of my head should be the middle part of "Schizophrenia" after Kim's vocal part where it slowly builds and then releases like crazy melodic dual guitar goodness. best exemplified in the Year Punk Broke version. mind gets blown everytime.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by pepper_green

off the top of my head should be the middle part of "Schizophrenia" after Kim's vocal part where it slowly builds and then releases like crazy melodic dual guitar goodness. best exemplified in the Year Punk Broke version. mind gets blown everytime.

Yeah, that's one of my all time fave SY moments too.

Also the breakdown and subsequent coda in "Catholic Block" ... Might be my favorite SY moments of all time.

Too many great transcendent moments to count though. Would be tough.

Ending of "NYC Ghosts & Flowers" is also up there

[pepper_green]

^ I've always been an advocator of NYCGF! one of the best SY albums. love it and could never think what the assholes critics were thinking. shit is tight! sometimes the production is an issue with me but I've never thought they've released a bad album. Washing Machine is stiff to me. no matter. best band eva of course!

[noisereductions]

Love love love nycgf

[pepper_green]

been on a Sebadoh kick too. love this performance and thought I would never see it after watching a glimpse of it on 120 minutes in 96. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqnC9GXTp9M... it really kicks ass!!!!

On Fire - Sebadoh

Bakesale - Sebadoh . I forgot how badass ill this album is. they kick out the jams without Eric. love Eric's songs too though. Lou is still such a paranoid pussy. Bakesale is a ruthless selfish album. and I love it.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by pepper_green

^ I've always been an advocator of NYCGF! one of the best SY albums. love it and could never think what the assholes critics were thinking. shit is tight! sometimes the production is an issue with me but I've never thought they've released a bad album. Washing Machine is stiff to me. no matter. best band eva of course!

I only really remember the infamous Pitchfork 0.0 review, for which an official apology was later printed in the New York Times. I don't recall reading, like, a bunch of negative reviews, but I know that Pitchfork one was just absurd, and managed to do some damage all by itself. Crock of shit.

It's not my favorite SY album, but it definitely has its place in the mythos. "Free City Rhymes" is one of my all time top ten Sonic Youth songs, and is just plain perfect.

[pepper_green]

Pussy Galore/Jon Spencer Blues Explosion - Extra Width

and still fun kick ass! all around classics now. anything after ACME I don't bother with. Dial M for Motherfucker and Sugar Shit Sharp are favorites too.

[pepper_green]

age old question: who do you prefer?: Blues Explosion or Royal Trux?

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by pepper_green

age old question: who do you prefer?: Blues Explosion or Royal Trux?

You gotta be joking. That's like asking whether you prefer Pat Boone or Little Richard. ROYAL TRUX all the way.

[pepper_green]

give me a break. I understand your preference but you didn't have to relate it with such two extremes.

expected from SYG. so who here likes early to mid Blues Explosion? c'mon. Royal Trux is nice. thinking of Twin Infinitives and later, Veterans of Disorder. esp. "Blue is the Frequency".

Blues Explosion was surely the best live. ahummmm, that Royal Trux song "Back to School" gets me everytime. with the Hendrix 'may this be love' guitar leads. that Royal Trux singles album I use to play a lot.

I love both. there.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by pepper_green

age old question: who do you prefer?: Blues Explosion or Royal Trux?

My gut says JSBX.

I'd have to revisit Royal Trux to really know.


I didn't realize this was an age old question. Dinosaur jr vs. Sebadoh? Yeah, that's epic. Minor Threat vs. Fugazi? Who among us hasn't nearly gone mad over that one?

But hey, if it's age old it's age old, and we NEED to address it.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by pepper_green

been on a Sebadoh kick too. love this performance and thought I would never see it after watching a glimpse of it on 120 minutes in 96. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqnC9GXTp9M... it really kicks ass!!!!

On Fire - Sebadoh

Bakesale - Sebadoh . I forgot how badass ill this album is. they kick out the jams without Eric. love Eric's songs too though. Lou is still such a paranoid pussy. Bakesale is a ruthless selfish album. and I love it.

I just listened to III today and it reminded me of how much I miss good old jangly rock type shit. I think I need a break from the footwork and techno and the hip hop. Gotta get back in touch with my roots, y'knaw?

"Violet Execution" is my favorite Sebadoh song at the moment, for those who are curious.

[pepper_green]

Royal Trux were always hit or miss. drug intoxicated brilliance to weird boring Beck like blundering without that Pavement vibe. at least the Blues Explosion at one time took it to another high level. Royal Trux just did too much heroin. the Howling Hex albums are neat though.

[pepper_green]

Originally Posted by Severian

"Violet Execution" is my favorite Sebadoh song at the moment, for those who are curious.

Scars, four Eyes is much better. III is my least favorite Sebadoh album.

[pepper_green]

Originally Posted by Severian

I didn't realize this was an age old question.

if it's not, it should goddamn it.

[Severian]

Yeah I'm for JSBX on this one. Probably means I'm lame. Don't care.

[Severian]

I listened to the new Twin Peaks album yesterday just because I felt like hearing some rock type stuff. I was thoroughly uninterested in it based on every review I read. Made it sound like a super basic indie rehash of CCR, The Stones, Neil Young. Which it absolutely is. There is a black hole sucking up all the inventiveness in rock these days. But I still enjoyed what I heard. I think I liked the first track best after a cursory breeze though on Apple Music.

Nothing to write home about. Nothing, even, to really write about, period. But it was catchy enough that it might end up being something I return to.

Put on Sebadoh before the album was half over though. That's the problem with rock type stuff that pulls from familiar sources that were already pulling from familiar sources to begin with. You hear it, and you think, "Fine, fine, but if I want to hear this I have about a thousand tried and true albums I could listen to already."

People are saying 2016 is some monumental music year, but aside from a handful of great releases, I've been pretty bored by a majority of the output on all fronts. I haven't purchased so few albums in an 8 month period since... I honestly can't remember when.

I'm frustratingly bored by just about everything around me right now. Music, films, books, it's all just regurgitated crap.

[Rob Instigator]

JSBX and Royal Trux are both supremely boring.

[evollove]

Originally Posted by Severian

People are saying 2016 is some monumental music year

Who are "people" and why are they saying this? Because PJ, Cave, the Pixies and other tried-and-trues have/will release something this calendar year? Or am I missing something new and orgasmic?