[Rob Instigator]

Can you tell I live in tha Dirty South? Third Coast y'all.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

perhaps in some categories. In others she is far far < than Kim K.

You're talking essentially about ass vs invasion of the flat booty bitchez I assume??

 

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

I think that since the current wave of hip hop is purely based around stripper anthems, and that most of the hot new tracks are bumpin' out of Magic City in Atlanta, instead of a large media marketplace like NYC (where hip hop was born and where it has rotted on the vine) and LA, (where every fucking goddamn rapper still sounds like G-Funk-Lite) these "kids are just not exposed to it.

Over the past month my wife and I have noticed that the hip hop radio stations in Houston (93.7, 97.9) are playing all the cats that we have been listening to for the past 8 months or so, from Rae Sremmurd, to Rich Homie Quan to TY $ to Kevin Gates to Future. I guess no one under 30 is listening to the radio anymore.

You sir nailed it. This era is all just lazy party music about excesses and debauchery more than its not... and hey, there has always been a place for that in rap and hip hop but it seems to me to be too much involved in the ratio now for my tastes

[Rob Instigator]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

You're talking essentially about ass vs invasion of the flat booty bitchez I assume??

 

HA! 2Short....

Just polar opposites in form. Tall and gangly vs shorter and voluptuous, blonde WASP vs brunette Armenian, short hair vs long hair, closeted lesbian vs straight maneater....

Both are beautiful women. All types of women are beautiful.

[Rob Instigator]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

You sir nailed it. This era is all just lazy party music about excesses and debauchery more than its not... and hey, there has always been a place for that in rap and hip hop but it seems to me to be too much involved in the ratio now for my tastes

besides the party beats there is also a HUGE undercurrent of crack-slingin' glorification, or at least description of the trap life.

I always try to explain it to my friends that when you are poor, when you grow up without material things to use as status symbols, you use non-material things to prove your worth, such as how many babes you bone, who bones the hottest babe, who sells the most dope, who steals the best car, who has been shot and lived, who went to jail and didn;t punk out. etc. You rap/sing about what you know about.

Those things do not mean shit to most of middle america, regardless of race, because their lives are about material possession without the stress of wanting things you can never have, like buying a new ipad every year, new iphone every year, which car mom and dad will buy you for your 16th birthday, who has the best threads,that mommy paid for.. etc. These people see the current wave of rap and find nothing redeeming in it, but fuck them. it is not for them.

[Rob Instigator]

Originally Posted by pepper_green

you can easily find both types of women at yr local grocery store.

or your local library

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by pepper_green

you can easily find both types of women at yr local grocery store.

Only if you live in LA yeah..indeed last time i went grocery shopping at my sister's in Portland i told her, "that wasn't any fun at all. In LA i love going to the market to flirth with all the lovely ladies." In Portland all the ladies were considerably less lovely..

Originally Posted by Last Action Hero

if we aren't in a movie then where are all the ordinary women? All the women here are gorgeous?! You're right but this isn't a movie.. this is California.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by louder

You're being too defensive right now. I'm not attacking you nor anyone else here dude. I love Kanye and want this album to be great. I never cared what the media says..

Sorry man, I know you're not a attacking me or anyone.
I'm trying to be funny as also serious, and I guess I'm failing.

I apologize.

In the future, if I ever accuse you of cloud city Vadering, please understand that I'm talking to you like a very close friend, trusting that you'll know I'm fucking around.

Now I feel bad.

[Severian]

Louder's right that #NoMorePartiesInLA and Real Friends are total gems.

I can kinda see why you're disappointed if you were expecting more like Ye's phenomenal, career best verse on "No More..."

Me, I am happy to hear Kanye's thoughts and visions take formation. Even if he's just curating, producing and adding very few lyrics, I still love his work.

But yeah, No More Parties is pretty far beyond anything else on the album in terms of flow and technique.

Friends?

[Severian]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

besides the party beats there is also a HUGE undercurrent of crack-slingin' glorification, or at least description of the trap life.

I always try to explain it to my friends that when you are poor, when you grow up without material things to use as status symbols, you use non-material things to prove your worth, such as how many babes you bone, who bones the hottest babe, who sells the most dope, who steals the best car, who has been shot and lived, who went to jail and didn;t punk out. etc. You rap/sing about what you know about.

Those things do not mean shit to most of middle america, regardless of race, because their lives are about material possession without the stress of wanting things you can never have, like buying a new ipad every year, new iphone every year, which car mom and dad will buy you for your 16th birthday, who has the best threads,that mommy paid for.. etc. These people see the current wave of rap and find nothing redeeming in it, but fuck them. it is not for them.

Dude, what era of the American middle class are you referring to exactly? Because shit... I used to make what I though was a fair amount of money for living in a mid-level city. 40-45k/year tops. Nothing super impressive, but it was a lot more than many of my friends made. But I never had enough money to do the things you're talking about. Not even close. With expenses factored in and student loans and helping my girlfriend through grad school, I was paycheck to paycheck.

The middle class doesn't really exist anymore unless you live in a very small town and make a shit ton of money for that area. I'm talking like, 70k or more in an area with no more than 10,000 people, where the average household income is less than 25.

My parents were college professors and magazine editors and even in the good old '90s, buyinf a new car was a massive decision that required a loan and a conmittement to sticking with said car for 5-10 years.

Maybe I grew up poorer than I remember, but I think you're talking about upper-middle class folks at the very least, if not straight up rich people.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by Severian

Dude, what era of the American middle class are you referring to exactly? Because shit... I used to make what I though was a fair amount of money for living in a mid-level city. 40-45k/year tops. Nothing super impressive, but it was a lot more than many of my friends made. But I never had enough money to do the things you're talking about. Not even close. With expenses factored in and student loans and helping my girlfriend through grad school, I was paycheck to paycheck.

The middle class doesn't really exist anymore unless you live in a very small town and make a shit ton of money for that area. I'm talking like, 70k or more in an area with no more than 10,000 people, where the average household income is less than 25.

My parents were college professors and magazine editors and even in the good old '90s, buyinf a new car was a massive decision that required a loan and a conmittement to sticking with said car for 5-10 years.

Maybe I grew up poorer than I remember, but I think you're talking about upper-middle class folks at the very least, if not straight up rich people.

Teddy Brosevelt i hate to break it to you but unless you live in Appalachia 45k is NOT middle vlass. It isn't the poverty line by any means and it is a more or less "cool" lifestyle BUT frankly in today's US any household under 100k is NOT MIDDLE CLASS rather is paycheck to paycheck

[Severian]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

Teddy Brosevelt i hate to break it to you but unless you live in Appalachia 45k is NOT middle vlass. It isn't the poverty line by any means and it is a more or less "cool" lifestyle BUT frankly in today's US any household under 100k is NOT MIDDLE CLASS rather is paycheck to paycheck

That was my point.

100k is still upper class. Trust me, I've lived and worked in some very expensive areas, and people making 100k (not for the household, but for one person) do just fine. I was able to rent a nice place in Seattle on much much less. Course I had a girlfriend who also worked and made good money, and I have no children, but yeah... My Frieda who clear 100k live very well.

A lot of t depends on where you are. You live in LA, right? In sure you get this.

Anyway I don't think I'm quite middle class anymore. I make less than I used to, even though I'm still quite comfortable.

I didn't mean to say "yo, I make 45k, I'm a baller!" Not at all. I meant something closer to "hey, I bring in 5 or 6 times what people under the poverty line make and I'm still nowhere near being able to buy a Fucking car every year."

The middle class doesn't exist anymore, unfortunately.

[Severian]

Wait, Teddy Brosevelt?

[louder]

Originally Posted by Severian

Sorry man, I know you're not a attacking me or anyone.
I'm trying to be funny as also serious, and I guess I'm failing.

I apologize.

In the future, if I ever accuse you of cloud city Vadering, please understand that I'm talking to you like a very close friend, trusting that you'll know I'm fucking around.

Now I feel bad.

It's all good my man, no hard feelings.

I might've gone too far with my criticism, honestly I've been bummed all day because I just want this album to be great.. it's obvious that Kanye isn't going through the best phase in his personal life these days and I just don't want it to affect this album negatively.

https://twitter.com/RHYMEFEST/status/698178615175987200

"@JakeChatty my brother needs help, in the form of counseling. Spiritual & mental. He should step away from the public & yesmen & heal"



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P.S. I'm sure TLOP will be good.. even if it ends up being Ye's worst album lyrically.. it won't be the end of the world.

[louder]

Originally Posted by Severian

Louder's right that #NoMorePartiesInLA and Real Friends are total gems.

I can kinda see why you're disappointed if you were expecting more like Ye's phenomenal, career best verse on "No More..."

Me, I am happy to hear Kanye's thoughts and visions take formation. Even if he's just curating, producing and adding very few lyrics, I still love his work.

But yeah, No More Parties is pretty far beyond anything else on the album in terms of flow and technique.

Friends?

Well, No More Parties is back on the album now so that's a plus.

And of course.

[louder]

My opinion often seems "extreme" to others because of how passionate I am. I'm used to it.

[louder]

I think Kanye might be addicted to coke. It would explain his erratic behavior and Rhymefest's tweets.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by louder

I think Kanye might be addicted to coke. It would explain his erratic behavior and Rhymefest's tweets.

I've thought that on and off for as long as I can remember.

[louder]

Originally Posted by Severian

I've thought that on and off for as long as I can remember.

Rhymefest said he's more concerned about Ye's well being than his music. That and the following pic are very telling:

 

[louder]

Anyway,

WHERE THE HELL IS THE LIFE OF PABLO??!?!?!