[Skuj]

Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

Climate change will shrink US economy and kill thousands, government report warns

The report:
FOURTH NATIONAL CLIMATE ASSESSMENT
Volume II: Impacts, Risks, and Adaptation in the United States
The National Climate Assessment (NCA) assesses the science of climate change and variability and its impacts across the United States, now and throughout this century.

More: https://news.google.com/stories/CAAqhAEICiJ-Q0JJU1dEb0pjM1J2Y25rdE16WXdTa3NLRVFqVTViU2VqWUFNRV laXzE0dG9JLWhDRWpaVWNuVnRjQ0JoWkcxcGJtbHpkSEpoZEds dmJpQnlaV3hsWVhObGN5QnlaWEJ2Y25RZ2IyNGdZMnhwYldGMF pTQmphR0Z1WjJVb0FBUAE?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen


By the way, this is what Tiny said when a reporter asked him if the California fires had changed his view on climate change:

"No. I have a very strong opinion about it. We're going to have great climate."

You really can't make this shit up.

Seriously though, how will Team Trump spin this? Was this written by Obama appointees? What does Pence think? Oh nevermind....he thinks Earth is 6000 years old.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Skuj

It's getting to the point where you cannot make shit up about the shit you cannot make up.

Is this what America is? There wasn't a blue wave in 2018. Won't America be sick of Trumpism in 2020?

Complete clowns are in charge now.

yeah. be very afraid

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...a6b_story.html

[Skuj]

Russia-Ukraine. Grabbing my popcorn now. I bet there is going to be bad people on both sides.

[afreespirit]

Originally Posted by Skuj

If, a few years ago, you told me that POTUS was openly criticizing a judge, I would have fainted.

Commence fainting.



Justice Grimaces As Obama Criticizes Court

[Skuj]

Originally Posted by afreespirit

Commence fainting.



Justice Grimaces As Obama Criticizes Court

Nice try.

1) He did not criticize a judge in a personal-attack way. He expressed his opinion about a Supreme Court ruling. There is a big, classy, intelligent difference.

2) He was right. I challenge you to explain how he was wrong.

[afreespirit]

Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

Climate change will shrink US economy and kill thousands, government report warns

The report:
FOURTH NATIONAL CLIMATE ASSESSMENT
Volume II: Impacts, Risks, and Adaptation in the United States
The National Climate Assessment (NCA) assesses the science of climate change and variability and its impacts across the United States, now and throughout this century.

More: https://news.google.com/stories/CAAqhAEICiJ-Q0JJU1dEb0pjM1J2Y25rdE16WXdTa3NLRVFqVTViU2VqWUFNRV laXzE0dG9JLWhDRWpaVWNuVnRjQ0JoWkcxcGJtbHpkSEpoZEds dmJpQnlaV3hsWVhObGN5QnlaWEJ2Y25RZ2IyNGdZMnhwYldGMF pTQmphR0Z1WjJVb0FBUAE?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen


By the way, this is what Tiny said when a reporter asked him if the California fires had changed his view on climate change:

"No. I have a very strong opinion about it. We're going to have great climate."

You really can't make this shit up.

I don't blame him. That report is pseudoscientific bullshit. Climate cannot be predicted.



This statement is not controversial;


"The climate system is a coupled non-linear chaotic system, and therefore the long-term prediction of future climate states is not possible."
https://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/tar/wg1/501.htm



Long-term is generally considered to be 10 years and more. Beyond that it's just wild guesses.

[afreespirit]

Originally Posted by Skuj

Nice try.

1) He did not criticize a judge in a personal-attack way. He expressed his opinion about a Supreme Court ruling. There is a big, classy, intelligent difference.

2) He was right. I challenge you to explain how he was wrong.

1) He criticized their decision in front of the nation while they were a captive audience. Totally classless.



2) The SC is the final arbiter on Constitutional interpretation of law. Not the President, no matter how strongly he may feel about it.


3) Presidents are certainly free to criticize court decisions. Neither Obama nor Trump are the first to do so.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by afreespirit

I don't blame him. That report is pseudoscientific bullshit. Climate cannot be predicted.



This statement is not controversial;


"The climate system is a coupled non-linear chaotic system, and therefore the long-term prediction of future climate states is not possible."
https://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/tar/wg1/501.htm



Long-term is generally considered to be 10 years and more. Beyond that it's just wild guesses.

if you were honestly criticizing prediction you’d criticize the orange blob’s prediction that “we’re going to have a great climate” (do you need a link?)

also that statement you quote is not controversial when it’s not cherrypicked and presented out of context. the text that immediately follows the sentence you quote is:

Rather the focus must be upon the prediction of the probability distribution of the system�s future possible states by the generation of ensembles of model solutions. Addressing adequately the statistical nature of climate is computationally intensive and requires the application of new methods of model diagnosis, but such statistical information is essential.

i don’t know if you understand math, but there is a difference between predicting states and predicting probability distributions of such possible states

lol!

are you that dishonest? or just an idiot parroting someone else’s scam?

i can’t tell which one with certainty, but the probability that it’s either one of those is *quite high.*

[choc e-Claire]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

Rather the focus must be upon the prediction of the probability distribution of the system�s future possible states by the generation of ensembles of model solutions. Addressing adequately the statistical nature of climate is computationally intensive and requires the application of new methods of model diagnosis, but such statistical information is essential.

This, so much.

Rather than saying 'this one thing is definitely going to happen, and it's bad', it's saying 'there's a lot of things that could happen, and some of them are bad'.

There's several things that could happen with the climate. We're just trying to work out whether it's more likely that a bad thing happens than a good thing. (Spoiler: it's probably going to be a bad thing.)

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by choc e-Claire

Rather than saying 'this one thing is definitely going to happen, and it's bad', it's saying 'there's a lot of things that could happen, and some of them are bad'.

yes but it’s not as neutral. this way of stating probabilities leaves further openings to dishonest operators or misinterpretation by idiots, or both. which is not what you intend.

yes, all we have is probabilities. but the probability of bad things happening with the climate keeps continually increasing.

quantum mechanics is also probabilities from few observable states. still we got enough of a handle on those probabilities that we can make laser pointers for cats to play with.

a bit like the old joke about the mathematician and the engineer.

they both are thinking about kissing an attractive person.

the mathematician thinks they first have to travel halfway there. then halfway the remaining distance. then half again, and half again, and so forth. since space is infinitely divisible, the mathematician gives up on ever getting there.

the engineer just needs to get close enough for all practical purposes.

[Skuj]

Originally Posted by afreespirit

1) He criticized their decision in front of the nation while they were a captive audience. Totally classless.



2) The SC is the final arbiter on Constitutional interpretation of law. Not the President, no matter how strongly he may feel about it.


3) Presidents are certainly free to criticize court decisions. Neither Obama nor Trump are the first to do so.

1) Again, I contend that Obama's opinion is correct. Argue otherwise. This is very different from a personal attack on a particular judge. It is NOT classless, unlike Trump.

2) I agree with you on this.

3) I agree with you on this. But Trump is the first to attack individual judges personally. Prove me wrong.

[ilduclo]

Roberts has not been a good justice. Among his worst decisions:

Bush vs Gore, stopping a legitimate vote counting procedure, supposedly controlled by the States (until otherwise inconvenient)

Citizens United, money equals speech in political campaigns

Shelby Cty vs Holder, invalidating voter protection rules in seg states ( suddenly NOW the states get to control their elections)

ATT vs Conception, again limiting States rights, again no states rights unless they are slanted towards republicans or corpos.

DC vs Heller, again, no states rights if it goes against the overlords...

Roberts is a bought and sold repube asset. Any anti trumpie shit he is spewing is just so much shopping out ideas for his retirement books and speeches. He ‘ll be lionized in the same fashion as the equally slimy Scalia and O’Conner.

[ilduclo]

Trump told former Economic Council head Gary Cohn to print more money. "Run the presses, run the presses!" When Cohn's staff prepared a mandatory report about the new 2 trillion$ deficit increase due to his tax cuts, Cohn said not to bother. "The president does not care about deficits."

[Skuj]

The Dems need to start shouting about this in a big way. The fucking deficit!! (But I guess as long as we have a tax cut NOW, fuck the future, right?)

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by afreespirit

I don't blame him. That report is pseudoscientific bullshit. Climate cannot be predicted.

^ Who the fuck is this guy?

 

[!@#$%!]

so general motors cutting back hard this morning

smells like the business cycle coming to a close...

[ilduclo]

Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

^ Who the fuck is this guy?

 

Another botfly

[ilduclo]

Melanoma's new Xmas Decorations

last years

 

this year even better

 

[The Soup Nazi]

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This isn't an example of "polarized politics". This isn't "we're not enemies, we should get along, we're all Americans" HORSESHIT. This is CRUELTY BEYOND WORDS BY DOWNRIGHT EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS WHO SHOULD GET ASS CANCER — and I'm including both the administration and the jizzbuckets who said that you can put teargas on your nachos and that this was the highlight of their Thanksgiving.

FUCK THEM. THEY'LL LIKE US WHEN WE WIN.

[Skuj]

But her emails.