[Rob Instigator]

Dirty South y'all

Can we all at leats agreee that DJ Khaled is just FUCKING AWFUL? I get deranged pedophile vibe from that fuck. His beats SUCK SHIT.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

Dirty South y'all

Can we all at leats agreee that DJ Khaled is just FUCKING AWFUL? I get deranged pedophile vibe from that fuck. His beats SUCK SHIT.

Yes. He's terrible. He doesn't even really make beats. He's a professional curator. He barely produces... barely contributes anything musical to "his" music. He's a big fucking fraudulent motivational speaking Snapchat endorsing lump of uselessness. I'd argue that Drake (fucking DRAKE!!! is more talented by every conceivable metric. And that's really saying something.

I get what he's going for... the lazy route to hip-hop superstardom. Become a brand. Put that brand on things. Feature famous people and soon enough, the average Joe will think you're an artist. But he's more of an actual "disc jockey" (like, in the radio personality sense of the word) than a "DJ."

THIS is a DJ:

 

THIS is a motherfucking DJ:

 

Khaled is a blob of nothingness.

[Severian]

I'm really feeling like we, as a hip-hop café, took Frank Ocean's Blonde for granted last year. What a weird ass, wonderful album that was.

[Rob Instigator]

discussion of Frank Ocean should go in the R&B cafe, not Hip Hops

[Severian]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

discussion of Frank Ocean should go in the R&B cafe, not Hip Hops

I actually puzzled over this a lot. Not the "café" part, as there is no R&B café, but whether or not Frank Ocean qualifies as hip-hop.

He certainly isn't R&B by any traditional definition. But he might be more "pop" or even, honestly, "experimental pop" than hip-hop.

That said, he is part of hip-hop culture, he raps in addition to singing, he cut his teeth with Odd Future, and fleshed out his career with Kanye and Jay-Z features. His album features the hardest bars Andre 3000 has rapped since Outkast dissolved, and he is black and funky. So... it's no stretch to call him hip-hop.

Basically, if Kanye is hip-hop, so is Frank. That's how I see it. Neither of them fit into the box sonically, and neither can R-A-P on the level of Danny Brown or Kendrick or blah blah. But they're both culturally hip-hop.

Fucking Beyoncé is culturally hip-hip at this point. Remember the '90s, when Timbaland started exploding R&B jizz all over crazy, spooky beats? Well, R&B changed when that shit happened.

[Severian]

I actually think Blonde is a lot more like TLOP than I initially thought. Even sloppier and more chaotic, really, if in a more subdued way. Nowhere near as good as TLOP of course, but still very good.

[Rob Instigator]

everything is cuirrently hip hop becauise it is the basiss for almost all the tracks in pop radio at the moment. I would say it is 9 in 10 thjat are hip hop, sample based, beat tracks, and 1 out of 10 are rock based, instrument-played tracks.

[Bytor Peltor]

B L A C K I E - Remains

 

^^^BEST hooks of 2017^^^

[Severian]

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

B L A C K I E - Remains

 

^^^BEST hooks of 2017^^^

Wow. What the fuck is this? It's interesting, but it sounds a bit like Chino Moreno from Deftones injected himself with a speedball of Death Grips and Slayer.

I don't think this is hip-hop.
But I am intrigued.

[Rob Instigator]

Blackie has been doing his thang in Htown for years now.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

Blackie has been doing his thang in Htown for years now.

There appear to be two blackies (that sounds bad).

There's Blackie

and then there's B L A C K I E.

Blackie:

 

And B L A C K I E

 

Looks like the one Bytor's talkin' bout is from Houston though, so I gotcha.

Sometimes I don't even know why I say stuff.

[Severian]

Wow, he was born in '87? That actually makes him kind of an old fart as far as modern up-and-coming musicians go.

Makes me practically geriatric.

[louder]

The Return of Chief Keef
http://www.xxlmag.com/news/2017/05/c...urn-interview/

Thought it was a very good read.

Before Chief Keef landed at FilmOn, though, he had an opportunity to be the first artist with an Apple Music deal. “This was before I ended up with Alki, messing with Dro,” Keef remembers, referencing his former manager Rovan “Dro” Manuel. “They were talking about taking me to Apple. This was before they did anybody with Apple Music. You know what Larry called me and said? He said, ‘You’re gonna be the first artist on Apple Music,’ and I turned it down. Because, you know… I don’ know. I just didn’t do it. But I would have been the first artist on Apple Music.”

LOL

[Severian]

Originally Posted by louder

The Return of Chief Keef
http://www.xxlmag.com/news/2017/05/c...urn-interview/

Thought it was a very good read.


LOL

That's shit journalism, bro. Even for music journalism, which is rather shit as a rule.

Case in point:

Originally Posted by XXL's shit writing staff or correspondent or whatever:

less than three months after Keef dropped “I Don’t Like” in 2012, ** Kanye hi-jacked it as the lead single for his upcoming G.O.O.D. Music album. A year later, Keef was one of only two rappers featured on Yeezus.

** Emphasis not added.

Then, in that RED, BOLD "hi-jacked" but, they provide a hyperlink to an article about... Keef feeling honored to get the remix, and having ample opportunity to drop new bars for the Cuel Summer version.

Bah. That's bad slant-writing. With a bad slant. Doesn't even make sense. Yes, poor Chief Keef.

[louder]

Rolling Stones' 100 Greatest Hip-Hop Songs of All Time

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/li...l-time-w435246

(Spoiler: This list is terrible.)

[Severian]

Originally Posted by louder

Rolling Stones' 100 Greatest Hip-Hop Songs of All Time

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/li...l-time-w435246

(Spoiler: This list is terrible.)

Uhhh... they called "Ni**as in Paris" a "minimalist" song.

BAAAA-HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

What the FUCK? "Ni**as..." and, indeed, ALL of Watch the Throne, is as maximalist as Kanye gets. Even more so than MBDTF.

Who the hell writes this shit?

[Severian]

Only counted three Kanye songs, one Jay Z song, two Wu-Tang songs, and a couple Tribe songs. None of these artists were at no. 1. I only skimmed the list, but damn did they leave out a lot of good shit. And "The Message" might be the most influential or important hip-hop song, but NO FUCKING WAY is if the best. Fuck that shit.

[Rob Instigator]

I thought it was a decent list, taking into account the now 40+ years of Hip Hop recordings. Fuck Jay Z that overrated asshole SUX and will be completely ignored in 5 years....

The Message is the "best" hip hop song in that it was the first that was not a party record, and the first to hit hard and tell shit like it is, which set the template for most of the hip hop to follow. Not the "best" but the most important, and that means something more than any Jay Z shit track.

[Rob Instigator]

there is way to much eminem. There should be NO eminem.

Rolling stone is a magazine for older white folks. they "asked " people from the hip hop world to give their top songs but Rolling Stone producers mold and shape the list to suit their readers/advertisers.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

there is way to much eminem. There should be NO eminem.

Rolling stone is a magazine for older white folks. they "asked " people from the hip hop world to give their top songs but Rolling Stone producers mold and shape the list to suit their readers/advertisers.

I agree. There should be no Eminem. I guess I can see including a song like "My Name Is," because that was just such a huge fucking moment, andir was something new and iconic and, at the time, rather weird. But "Stan?" Come the film on. That song has always been god awful and terrible and cheesy and stupid as fuck.

And "Lose Yourself" and it's sister anthem "Sing for the Moment" honestly have more in common with bad white rural rock music than they do with hip-hop. Those songs are what drew hillbillies to awful white rap-rock, from Uncle Cracker to Crazy Town. Jesus. Terrible music. It's basically just a slightly less rocky Kid Rock, that shit. It's arena crossover rap. Appeals to fans of the dumbest buttrock in the world.